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Old 02-24-2008, 03:06 PM   #346
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paul... i dont know if you know my name but i was the kid chillen with you at snowbirds from fernando's track:::

what i wanna know is how did you go about getting such an awesome factory ride, did it take a looooong time, or did you go to your firtst big race and do really good?
Paul has been racing for a long time now! He didnt just go out and get a factory ride, he climbed the ladder as a firefighter would do, but he did it really quickly.. Paul has been laying it down year after year after year!! He has been a factory driver for many different companies, but lately he has found a good home with Xray and Trinity!!

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Good luck at the nats Paul, go get another trophy!!
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can you tell me though, is sponsorship more about consistency, or do they look at you at one big race, and if you place well, you're under their wing? im not talking about small companies who only sponsor a few people, but companies like proline, or in nitro, byrons. They always sponsor all these people, but you never hear of them, making it big.
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Old 02-24-2008, 05:57 PM   #349
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i was just asking because someone simply told me one time all a compnay or sponsor has to do is watch someone make one lap to know if they want to sponsor you or not, you dont have to actually go out and win every A main
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hey Paul thanks for the advice it really helped me and i shared it with other people and it helped them to. i always thought stiffer front springs you lose some turning and you soften the rear spring to get more traction. which is usually the case on asphalt. but on carpet it is some what backwards. i have one more question. what is usually the problem when your car traction rolls. what are some things to try. rubber tire on carpet.

OK one more question. are you going to write a set up book. and make the chapters like carpet foam/carpet rubber/asphalt rubber/asphalt foam. then give a problem that a car is having and give things to try. that would be great i think you would sell a ton. you would probably be rich.
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i was just asking because someone simply told me one time all a compnay or sponsor has to do is watch someone make one lap to know if they want to sponsor you or not, you dont have to actually go out and win every A main
You don't have to win everything, but that does help. A big thing is what you bring to the table for the company. If you notice, most sponsored guys (partially or full) help out whoever and however they can. Go out and be a good example by not only your driving, but your attitude and work ethics. Start small with a sticker company that a friend works at or owns, and move up, like Diggity said, like a fireman on a ladder. Again, its what you can bring to the company, not what you can get from the company for free or a discount.
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Ferrarimk13:Thanks. at a worlds as all you can do is be as prepaired as possible and hope that the conditions suit you and obviously for some luck or atleast not bad luck, The way that the races are now (so close) their are alot of people capable of winning at any time.
For me as Digity stated it was a long process to get where i am now, The biggest thing for me was that i attended a lot of Major events before i was sponsored, and ran modified. I have always been the type of person that if i was to get beat i wanted to say that i got beat by Joel Johnson, David Jun Ect Ect Ect. I was so Lucky to beable to travel with Scotty Ernst in the early days and Scotty is such a people person that everyone got to know me long before i was capable of making a mod main, so from their when i became a good racer it seemed like i already had a good name and it was much easier to become factory sponsored.

My advice to people who may not have it as easy as i did is to fiirst off practice alot because you do need to be a good racer.
2: get to big races and get your self out their.
3: Dont get discourged EVER ( it took me a lot of tries at major races to do well)
4: be helpfull and curtious to everyone, even your competitors. Their are too few people in this industry to ever be a jerk to any one of them.
5: Take everything seriously that is in your control, but the million things in rc that are out of your control you have to always let roll off your back and Never bother you.
6: if at any point your not having fun you need to re evaluate your attitude and what this hobby means to you, and why you do it. HAVE FUN

Their was a time for me that i was not enjoying the hobby. i was maybe 15, just getting kinda fast. I expected to win, it bothered me when i didnt win a club race, i thought i knew WAY MORE than i did. I was just taking it too seriously. I dont remember exactly what i realised but i made my self not be so competitive and this made it fun again. Not to mention that a few serious a_s beatings at major races was a big reality check that i had alot to learn.

and Im not even sure is this touched on your question.lol

Joe: Hey man, I think you haved the right attitude. You came down to the birds because you wanted to be their and experience the Big race. when we talked their, it never seemed to me that you were dead set on Winning or took it to seriously win you didn't. keep coming to races when you can and if you enjoy it (i think you do). and maybe at the next one i will have more time to help you with the small aspects of things. But your are definately a good example. And i hope i answered your question in the post above. And No you dont have to win all the time.

Mshap33: Generally i would start with my rear shocks stud up (not all the way but maybe 1 or 2 holes in). front shocks in the middle. and most likely a mid or high roll center in the front and a low in the rear. For low bite the first thing i want to do is support the front end with a higher roll center to help the car be easier to drive, on low bite it is almost impossible to race with a car that is difficult to drive.

Diggs: Thanks.

Xraysteve: Im glad i could help. For me usually a traction roll on rubber tires comes from the set up not being well ballanced, if the car is diving too much over the front end and not enough over the side (equaly) this could cause the weight to load up, the tire to catch the carpet in an inconsistent way and flip the car. for me this is the most common problem of traction rolling "rubber tires only". if this is your problem here are the things that i find most effective to get the car to roll more equaly.
1 Softer rear spring, just to induce rear roll.
2 Front width, wider from the hinge pin/not the hex, to make the front end support the weight of the car better.
3 More steering Ackermann, should not plant the outside front tire as hard.
4 Narrower rear hex, again to induce more rear roll.
5Less front caster (this one is questionable per the tire) but worth a try.
NORMALLY BAD THING:The one thing that i strongly suggest staying away from, but would seem to make scence is just going stiffer on the front spring untill the car rolls equaly, this will apear on the track to be doing the right thing but what is acually happening is that the weight is still transfering to the front just as much but it is only happening faster the stiffer you go. and normally this will make the car less consistent. when traction rolling you are looking for the most consistent car. You are not traction rolling because you have too much traction, you are traction rolling because the traction you do have is not as consistent as it needs to be. Slip,Grip,then flip.

This advive is not for all situations if it dose not work for you, BAIL on it and start over. And that leads me to your last question. now days with all the different typs of racing, tires, serfaces, SPEEDS of cars, ect,ect,ect. I honestly dont think that it is possible to have anything set in stone anymore. Meaning the idea of working on a set up booklet.
Me and Barry were talking about this just last week, It used to be as simple as (softer spring = more traction). now we can sit their and shoot down any ideas for a change that we have with all these negitive effects that that change would give, i think that is a product of speed. and it has gotten very hard to know what you need to do anymore to improove your car. I think to do an acurete set up booklet their would have to be so many sections for, Stock,Mod,rubber,foam,high bite,low bite, what type of tire, bumpy, smooth, tight track, open track, and even possibly What type of car. I dont think what i do to my Xray would work for a Losi. I just dont think you can give general advice without knowing more about the exact aplication anymore.
But if i thought i could do a good set up book i would.
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Rezenclowd: very well said.

Kropy: Im not baiting you of all people into that one.lol

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WOW Thats the biggest post i ever did. Just ask if their is anything that needs clarification. I wouldnt want to read a big post from me and acually try and understand it. most likely 1000 errors.
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Gawd Paul, you're awfully wordy today aren't ya? What's up Bro? How's Chase and the ol' lady?
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Chase is doing great. Yours? Thanks
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paul, how are you doing thanks for the kind words all is better
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Hey Chris, Im doing ok. Im taking some time off from racing right now, to focus on Family for a week or so. Just doing internet stuff from home.
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Hi Paul
saw you on www.rctvlive.com you looked good. Nice job on the win at the Birds.
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Old 02-25-2008, 03:24 PM   #360
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Paul...Howdie partener....TRINITY..?
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