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Old 12-09-2007, 06:51 AM   #16
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Damn, even when brushless and lipo are legalized, some people still complain. Some people just are not intrested in organized competition racing it seems.
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Old 12-09-2007, 07:23 AM   #17
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[QUOTE=Turbo Joe;3952669]

Who's requiring anything? If you wanna spend the dough...you can still go the baller NiMh way. Now you have the option of going the econo route.

Don't kid yourself for one second that the top guys in the silvercan classes (all of them) don't bring out several of the very best packs that can be purchased. Now there's a cheaper alternative.[QUOTE]

What I was trying to say isn't that they are requiring Lipos but rather that they are limiting Lipo to that of only one vendor, Orion/Peak. There are other vendors out there selling Lipo. This is where my issue is.

Personally, I feel that the lighter weight of Lipo and that you can recharge it several times a day are the advantages in GT-3. I use Lipo and like the convenience of carrying only one pack and a small charger/power supply to the track instead of 6 packs and a 15A ps.

Those "top guys" should be limited to GT-1. GT-3 was intended to be an entry level class which is why the silvercan motor is used. Also I remember when you could only use a preassembled stick pack to even the field some more. Afterall, it was intended as an entry level class so performance wasn't intended to be measured by how much you could spend on your powertrain.
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[QUOTE=AreCee;3953921][QUOTE=Turbo Joe;3952669]

Who's requiring anything? If you wanna spend the dough...you can still go the baller NiMh way. Now you have the option of going the econo route.

Don't kid yourself for one second that the top guys in the silvercan classes (all of them) don't bring out several of the very best packs that can be purchased. Now there's a cheaper alternative.
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What I was trying to say isn't that they are requiring Lipos but rather that they are limiting Lipo to that of only one vendor, Orion/Peak. There are other vendors out there selling Lipo. This is where my issue is.

Personally, I feel that the lighter weight of Lipo and that you can recharge it several times a day are the advantages in GT-3. I use Lipo and like the convenience of carrying only one pack and a small charger/power supply to the track instead of 6 packs and a 15A ps.

Those "top guys" should be limited to GT-1. GT-3 was intended to be an entry level class which is why the silvercan motor is used. Also I remember when you could only use a preassembled stick pack to even the field some more. Afterall, it was intended as an entry level class so performance wasn't intended to be measured by how much you could spend on your powertrain.
There is still the "Spec Novice" class which is a fun way to race and not spend a fortune. Also, there's the mini class which is "cheap" defined. There are lots of different options for drivers of all skill levels.

On the issue of LiPo, yes they are lighter wieght, but you have to add a ton of weight just to get your car balanced, so the weight issue has never been that big of deal. In addition, don't plan on any major racing organization to approve soft cases. They just aren't comfortable going that far, so you'll only see hard cases approved, at least at this point.

Remember that these are all optional. No one is required to run brushless and/or LiPo. AND, in GT-3, you are probably better off running NiMH batteries with that silver can, if you're going for top performance. For me, I go for fun, so the less battery hassles, the better.

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I'm not buying a new car AND buying 1 or 2 new Lipo packs just to compete in this...and I live 15min away from the track that has a GOOD possibility of hosting Tamiya Reg.'s
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Old 12-09-2007, 01:06 PM   #20
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Brushless motor inclusions:

GT-2 RULES:
6. NEW for 2008! The following 13.5 Brushless motors available from
Novak, LRP, Orion and Trinity are now legal for TCS racing in GT-2.

GT-1 RULES;
5. NEW for 2008! The following 10.5 Brushless motors available from
Novak, LRP, Orion and Trinity are now legal for TCS racing in GT-1.

10.5 Brushless motors are also legal for the
4WD off-road class.
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Brushless motor inclusions:

GT-2 RULES:
6. NEW for 2008! The following 13.5 Brushless motors available from
Novak, LRP, Orion and Trinity are now legal for TCS racing in GT-2.

GT-1 RULES;
5. NEW for 2008! The following 10.5 Brushless motors available from
Novak, LRP, Orion and Trinity are now legal for TCS racing in GT-1.

10.5 Brushless motors are also legal for the
4WD off-road class.
Any inclusions on Lipos?
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Great news...!

But are these regulations being only limited to the USA or will Tamiya Japan be into it??
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But are these regulations being only limited to the USA or will Tamiya Japan be into it??
These are USA only rules...Japan has their own. So does all other countries.
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hey nice.. this looks like a very good start. Hopefully BL/LiPO classes will expand.

30 minute mains sound awfully nice.
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I think what some are saying, why allow lipo and brushless and then restrict which brand.
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I think what some are saying, why allow lipo and brushless and then restrict which brand.
Uhhhh....for the same reasons that they restrict the brands of every other battery and motor on any RC car raced at an organized event?

I dunno...just throwing that out there...LOL
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Damn, even when brushless and lipo are legalized, some people still complain. Some people just are not intrested in organized competition racing it seems.
Yup, pretty much sums it up. Some people are just never satisfied.
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Uhhhh....for the same reasons that they restrict the brands of every other battery and motor on any RC car raced at an organized event?

I dunno...just throwing that out there...LOL
if it was a tamiya lipo and brushless system i guess it would make sense.

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