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Old 11-23-2007, 12:57 AM   #1
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are tire warmers usefull - is it bettere to get teh more expensive ones with a controller
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was at a race last weekend talking to one of the old timers... we were talking about how different the equipement these days are. back then to warm tires, he said, they use to douse the tires with some lighter fluid... just enough to make the surface damp, not dripping or soaked, then light tires up with a match or lighter. it was good enough to warm the tires up to around 60degC. if you wanted it to be hotter, you'd do it again.


but personally, i just use one of those much more units... just to cook in the traction compound (running rubber/asphalt) or keep the tires warm when its raining or when the weather is "cold".
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Old 11-23-2007, 04:42 AM   #3
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If you are racing at a good standard, then I think tyre warmers are useful.

Used right they will give you grip into the first corner and around the first handful of laps that you would not have normally while the tyres warm up.

I have been running without tyre warmers at the BIWS here in the UK (I am in the minority) and looking at the lap times it probably costs me as much as two seconds in the first lap and maybe a few tenths on each of the next 3 or 4 until the tyres warm to race temperature.

I've seen similar time disadvantages on tarmac tracks too.

Also that confidence around the first corner is very important to have in the finals, that is probably worth more than the handful of seconds you lose from your overall race time.
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If you are racing at a good standard, then I think tyre warmers are useful.

Used right they will give you grip into the first corner and around the first handful of laps that you would not have normally while the tyres warm up.

I have been running without tyre warmers at the BIWS here in the UK (I am in the minority) and looking at the lap times it probably costs me as much as two seconds in the first lap and maybe a few tenths on each of the next 3 or 4 until the tyres warm to race temperature.

I've seen similar time disadvantages on tarmac tracks too.

Also that confidence around the first corner is very important to have in the finals, that is probably worth more than the handful of seconds you lose from your overall race time.
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keep to use , no other choice !
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So you guys are seeing people use them on carpet with success?
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Definitely make a positive difference in rubber on carpet. Rubber on anything really.
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So you guys are seeing people use them on carpet with success?
What, you don't have a set? What kind of a racer are you anyhow?! I used mine in LV at IIC this year and do not regret it at all. I feel it makes a difference.
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What, you don't have a set? What kind of a racer are you anyhow?! I used mine in LV at IIC this year and do not regret it at all. I feel it makes a difference.
I'm still getting a feel for the rubbers... ahem.

So what's the rule of thumb for temperature on carpet? I'm kind of a nub, never used warmers before. How warm do you get them? How long to you warm them, etc? Is there a quick guide on the whole process somewhere?
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how do you get 4600 + posts and not no that well i dont but that isnt the point lol
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how do you get 4600 + posts and not no that well i dont but that isnt the point lol
Until the last few weeks, I've been racing foams exclusively. I never really bothered reading about rubber tires since it wasn't something that interested me previously.
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Its not so much the tempature as it is baking the sauce in the tire. But a good rule of thumb would be 42* c for 25 mins
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Thank you sir.
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I Feel that warmers are as usefull or even more so when practicing. Think about it. If you make a change and head out to check the results you have to run several laps to get the tires up to temp, before you can gauge the results of the change you made. But if you use warmers you can see the change imediately. In only one or two laps you'll know if your change was for the good or not.

As far as what temps to use; I base it on what the outside temp and the track temps are. when the tires are nice and warm the will hold that temp rather well if its a warm or hot day. If it's cold outside, I set the warmers a bit higher to compensate for the heat the will lose while your waiting on the last guy to get to the line. On a hot day I set to about 120f and when its cold I set to about 135f or 140f.
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I Feel that warmers are as usefull or even more so when practicing. Think about it. If you make a change and head out to check the results you have to run several laps to get the tires up to temp, before you can gauge the results of the change you made. But if you use warmers you can see the change imediately. In only one or two laps you'll know if your change was for the good or not.

As far as what temps to use; I base it on what the outside temp and the track temps are. when the tires are nice and warm the will hold that temp rather well if its a warm or hot day. If it's cold outside, I set the warmers a bit higher to compensate for the heat the will lose while your waiting on the last guy to get to the line. On a hot day I set to about 120f and when its cold I set to about 135f or 140f.

How long do you bake your tires at that temperature.
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