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Old 11-23-2007, 04:23 PM   #16
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If you're going to run foam tyres then the 416 might not be the best choice. When I had a 415 the only front diff available was from a Yokomo and I don't know if tamiya ever actually came out with a front diff for the car. I wouldn't be surprised if the same thing happened with the 416.
Tamiya have had a front diff out for the 415 for a while now... I would expect they've learnt a little bit from that, and make one avaliable sooner rather than later this time around
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If you're going to run foam tyres then the 416 might not be the best choice. When I had a 415 the only front diff available was from a Yokomo and I don't know if tamiya ever actually came out with a front diff for the car. I wouldn't be surprised if the same thing happened with the 416.
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Old 11-23-2007, 04:35 PM   #18
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A few years ago everybody would have been chanting Associated, but they (AE) have really fallen behind in their R&D. The TC4 was a nightmare on wheels and was really only good for beginners. When I hold a TC5 in my hands it feels like I'm looking at a car that was designed a few years ago. Even the new 12L5 looks to be updated a little but doesn't even come close to the CRC Gen-X and a couple other good 1/12's. Anyways back to the topic, if you are really serious about racing and want a top of the line car that will give you the performance and consistancy you need then you have to pick the 416. Just my .02
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Old 11-23-2007, 07:01 PM   #19
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At our local track, TC5 is not popular than 415, Xray & Yokomo, because after TC3, many AE's guy already moved to others belt drive car for a few years, that's why no one interest back to AE again and say TC5 no good, bad handling....., but I trust AE again and selling out my Cyclone, BD. It was no let me down, of course, u need a month to re-setup the car to suitable your local track condition, it will reflected the performance on what you did, so the first u must learning about setting skill, if u a lazy man, out box setting guy, 416 is your re-entering choice. Again, dont comment the car if u have no the best ability.
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Old 11-23-2007, 09:14 PM   #20
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Thanks for all of the insights and opinions guys. I was expecting 80% to come back as pro- TC5. I am running rubber tire now but I want the flexibility to move on to Foam tire in the near future. At this point, I am strongly leaning towards running my current Tamiya out at least until the end of the year. If and when the 416 comes along, I'll consider it.

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Good to see you coming back. From the choices you listed maybe just wait. The 416 looks pretty sharp. And with the TC5 you never know if they release another version of the car with some updates. Either way you can't lose and I've seen the TC5 and 416 predecessors do well at the tracks you would be going to.
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Old 11-23-2007, 09:33 PM   #21
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tc5 it's good on carpet and asphalt
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Old 11-24-2007, 02:58 AM   #22
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I would say TC5 all the way! It is dialed with the box stock setup! Even better with a great setup on it! IMHO its the best. But thats just my opinion... I could be wrong!
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I'm trying to decide between T2 008 or the 416.
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I had a TC5 for less than 2 weeks. It sucked. Inconsistant handling, some parts that should be aluminum, and its parts flex like Hulk Hogan used to back in the day, crappy belts, lot higher center of gravity than most. I did like the shocks though
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You should of gave it more of a chance. LOL I went from Type R to TC5 and found it more consistant. I was .10 off of Seth best lap. I never was that fast with the Losi. Not bad considering it was my 1st time with the car and the fact that I had not raced on the rug since ...April?
I also think the belts are fine. Mine seems free enough for me. The looser the belt the less rip you have.
Either car will do well.
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if you're really counting on the tcs go for 416.
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my tamiya went sloppy like a two bit whore after a few race meets.

best quality is an xray, but u pay $$$$ for it.
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Xray is too heavy, which is also told by a driver who had T2 then change to MI3.
TRF416 is the choice for lightweight drivetrain for good acceleration but not for durability.
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You should of gave it more of a chance. LOL I went from Type R to TC5 and found it more consistant. I was .10 off of Seth best lap. I never was that fast with the Losi. Not bad considering it was my 1st time with the car and the fact that I had not raced on the rug since ...April?
I also think the belts are fine. Mine seems free enough for me. The looser the belt the less rip you have.
Either car will do well.
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David, you are probably right, I didnt give it enough time. I wish I knew you wanted to get one and drop the R. I would oftried to make a deal with ya.lol

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