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Old 11-05-2007, 12:13 PM   #31
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I keep telling people to slow down to go faster, but very few people listen.
That's part of the reason for using Mabuchi/Duratrax motors.
Most of the time it's easy to pass out-of-shape-corner-overshooting cars; but sometimes they hit you, .
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Old 11-06-2007, 09:34 PM   #32
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I keep telling people to slow down to go faster, but very few people listen.
That's part of the reason for using Mabuchi/Duratrax motors.
Most of the time it's easy to pass out-of-shape-corner-overshooting cars; but sometimes they hit you, .
Thats what happens at the club gacjr0 and myself race at there is about 4-5 of us faster racers in the class and then a buch of other racers with overpowered cars mixed in the class. Gary is right about the out-of-shape-corner-overshooting cars; that sometimes they hit you. This is good for clubs everywhere makes racing more fun and even for everone not just the guy with the best stuff money can buy
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Old 11-06-2007, 09:37 PM   #33
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gacjr0 you could shave a little weight if you hard wire the esc to motor
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Old 11-07-2007, 05:36 AM   #34
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I keep telling people to slow down to go faster, but very few people listen.
That's part of the reason for using Mabuchi/Duratrax motors.
Most of the time it's easy to pass out-of-shape-corner-overshooting cars; but sometimes they hit you, .
You should ask for a run of one of the mod cars (or if you have one post your times) and compare times with your 540 car.
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Old 11-08-2007, 07:47 AM   #35
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Yeah, I thought about putting a stock motor in for the main but decided to leave it alone. This week I might try running a stock, 19, mod and see what happens.
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I believe the silver cans are 32T...that is what was told to me, plus my motors all have 32T printed on them. I use this motor in Porsche Cup racing in a F103GT chassis.

Have any of you guys played with the black can? I heard that it is just as durable....just a lot faster...
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I have pulled apart a silver can before and I counted 27 turns when I unwound each pole.
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I am not arguing that point, I guess the LHS owner is wrong, but what does the 32T printed on my silver can mean?

Also, I am thinking of throwing a black can in my car.....would I be able to use it to build the same type of project? How many turns is the black can?
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Your going to get a kick out of this, a kyosho mini inferno weighs around 950 grams w/ the alum goodies that most people like to run. Now, I'm pretty sure that a mamba 25 w/ a 8kv motor will put out enough power to push a mini inferno around at 30 m.p.h. w/ a 2s lipo. Now, I'm pretty sure that if you dropped a mamba 25 esc & a mamba 8000kv motor in the car you would lose 100+ grams of weight. which would put you right around 1000 grams. It might take a little work to mount the motor, but it would shave a ton of weight.
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I am not arguing that point, I guess the LHS owner is wrong, but what does the 32T printed on my silver can mean?

Also, I am thinking of throwing a black can in my car.....would I be able to use it to build the same type of project? How many turns is the black can?
I'm not arguing, I'm just posting what i found.
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mamba 25 esc & a mamba 8000kv motor in the car you would lose 100+ grams of weight.
I've given that some thought. I have read about that done with 1/12 scale before and that it ran well. I thought about doing it for the 1/12th I have or the Xray too. Maybe later in the season.

I will be racing tomorrow with the same stuff I've posted on; and be testing the differences between Duratrax/stock/19/mod motors on the same car.
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Headshot, I think you'll find your answers about silver/black can motors in the Silver can thread. That's where I learned the most about mabuchi and mabuchi-style motors.
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Update: ran a Trinity handout stock motor instead of the duratrax.
Result: no gain.
Conclusion: I am not a really good driver. It takes a bit more setup time than I took to adjust for more power. The little 2100 mah 18c might be at its limit with this powerplant in a tc, the power went really soft and the pack was at 140+ degrees while the motor was ok at the end of a run.
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you may have to invest in a higher capacity pack. what weight is your current one? i found a 50c heli 4900mah pack thats 244g, and thats still less than a 4200 stick pack. the only problem would be it's size, but it was the power to deliver loads more power to your motor, since you could upgrade to a mod or something. you'd still have a light car, and it would be half as fast again.

http://www.e-rc.co.uk/shop/evo-4900mah-2s1p-p-68.html
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Conclusion: I am not a really good driver. It takes a bit more setup time than I took to adjust for more power. The little 2100 mah 18c might be at its limit with this powerplant in a tc, the power went really soft and the pack was at 140+ degrees while the motor was ok at the end of a run.
That first line made me laugh.
Yeah a lot of people don't how much harder it is to setup a faster car, makes you respect the mod drivers a tad more.
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