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Old 12-13-2001, 06:03 AM   #16
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Sosidge, greetings from Malta.

You know your history pretty well, though I bet you're not as ancient as I am......55.

Yes Kyosho started off the belt 4 wd thing I suppose, with their off road buggies. My son had an Optima which, when everyone was running those old red gearbox, shaft drive Tamiyas in touring cars, I converted the Optima to a T/C and it ran away with them all.

I suppose the first 1/10th twin belt actual touring car was probably the YR4. I still have one of the originals from about 1995 or so. You know those cars were great. In fact right up until the MR4 in 1999 the factory cars ( Type J) were still very similar to the original YR4. So I suppose if we must talk about who copied who, I suppose Kyosho produced the first belt 4WD, Yoke the first 4wd Touring car. But it doesn't really matter anyhow.

Oh wait a minute, wasn't the Optima gear drive to the rear and belt to the front only!

I'm not going into the Pro 3 arguement. It's a bit of a hot one out here, though people are starting to see the light. I could have had one but chose not to.

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Old 12-13-2001, 06:48 AM   #17
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Look there's no point getting into an argument about what was the original 2-belt tourer.

The HPI, and all the other two-belt tourers with a rear motor, and high layshaft, are copying the transmission design of the Kyosho Lazer ZX buggy.

That came out in about 1989.
Were we talking about the origin of the 2 belt touring?????? I must have missed something!!!

but I agree with johnbull..... all those who think HPI popularist the 2 belt touring had better re-think! The Japanese touring RC was popular in Asia waaaay before it crossed the waters!!
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Old 12-13-2001, 06:53 AM   #18
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Anyway, enough of the arguing about HPI.

I have a question for the UK racers. I've seen pictures of some pretty cool tracks in the UK. Are there any tracks where you can just turn up and practice on? I'm really tempted to bring my cars with me when I'm on holiday to the UK but looking at the schedules, the tracks appear to have race days and no free practice days. I just want to run the car, I don't want to get into all the hassle of joining the club and racing!
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Old 12-13-2001, 09:10 AM   #19
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dtm, yeah there are a few.

Snetterton for one (venue of the 2001 Reedy Race), Ashby (or at least i have in the past!).

Not sure about Bedworth or West London, but Snetterton you can for sure.

http://www.compage.com/rccarsuk/ashby.html
http://www.bedworthrc.com/
http://www.smmcc.co.uk/
http://www.wlrc.co.uk/
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Old 12-13-2001, 09:17 AM   #20
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MattW- Thanks, thats good news. I'm usually based in London when I'm there and Snetterton is close enough!
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Old 12-13-2001, 11:10 AM   #21
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Hi. I am sorry this question is off the subject, but do you guys know for any rc hobby shops in London. I was looking for something close to kensington.

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Old 12-13-2001, 04:50 PM   #22
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Johnbull - I'm afraid I'm a whippersnapper at 25

My first "race" r/c car was an Optima Mid Custom - that was single belt (so the xxx-s isn't that groundbreaking), long wheel base (compared to the first optima mid) - good times were had, although if I knew then what I knew now about setup and motor care, who know's how quick it would have been!

I was always amazed at the pace of other people buggies when i used to go to the regionals and finish in the "K" final.

The original Optima was actually rear-motor and chain-drive.

Anyway - this has been an interesting forum - so far we've had UK race questions, HPI-bashing, and chassis reminiscing!
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Old 12-14-2001, 02:14 AM   #23
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Hi guys. Greetings from Malta.

DTM. All the circuits we have raced on in England - except the Worlds in 98 which was a purpose built indoor track are open to the public at all time. Obviously there will not be the facilities but the tracks are there.

We have raced at Mendip, Ashby and West London and I can tell you that in all three cases we just arrived there and set ourselves up to practice.

Our own track here in Malta is also always open. We even have electricity power points in the pitting area available all the time, and for those wishing to practice in the evenings we have flood lighting. We have a coin box operated affair - 10 cents gives you 15 minutes of floodlighting - and it's amazing how much the club collects from that alone. Guys must be spending all their evenings there practicing. Good for them, and good for the club.

Sosidge. Quite right, the first RC cars were actually chain drive. But if we really want to go back in the years, I remember when I was a kid - and remember I am now 55, my late Dad had built a radio control car. He was into r/c planes but a group of them decided that they should have another toy for when it was too windy to fly. So they all built cars. Dad's had a steel chassis that weighed a ton, and yes it was gear driven, using plenty of Meccano bits for the transmission. Of course in those days it was IC only. I remember he had bought a smart 50s Chevy lookalike clockwork toy car - about 1/8th scale it would have been, just to take the body. The r/c car ran on model aircraft wheels.

Just to reminiss some more, his home built transmitter was the size of a big suitcase and weighed a ton. 2 chanel receivers in those days were about the size of a modern transmitter, and batteries were even bigger.

We don't know how lucky we are.

I still have two of his boats, one he built in June 1951 which was the first R/c model in Malta. He used to build all his own electrics too. Now we just buy it all and clip it all together.

We should be racing again this weekend but we have had a week of nothing but rain so it doesn't look too promising.

regards

Joe from sunny!!!!!!!Malta.
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Old 12-14-2001, 07:02 AM   #24
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Thanks for all the info guys. Looks like I will be packing my RC car with me next time I'm going to the UK!!!
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Old 12-17-2001, 01:26 AM   #25
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If you want to see just how bad the rcracenews website is why not check it out for yourself at :

http://www.rcracenews.co.uk

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If you want to see just how bad the rcracenews website is why not check it out for yourself at :

http://www.rcracenews.co.uk

... Rob Fitzgerald

Is this 'bait' to get more website hits??!
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Old 12-17-2001, 06:36 AM   #27
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Interesting theory dtm

Although I must confess to still dropping in to the site, just to see what news he's got - he's also put up a few interesting tips and articles.

the forum though is just rubbish, and he spends a little too much time for my liking convincing people to buy from their on-line shop.

I'm still not sure if he's the real Rob, or an imposter.

Weird.
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Old 12-17-2001, 06:41 AM   #28
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This is freaky - just checked rcracenews' previous posts.

And it IS Rob fitzgerald.

Come on then rob, tell us what you're up to.

Are you stalking me around the forums?

Do you actually think your site is rubbish?

Or are you being ironic, confident you can win people over to the rcracenews/RClab/Modeltech/RRCi/BRM way?

(By the way, I rate the BRM motors anyway)

Come on man! Answer! Or I'll never get a good nights sleep again!
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Yes we do have an online shop. so thats that.

rcracenews.co.uk is NOT a forum but it does have a forum, if you see the difference.

We do many reviews on products and not only the ones we sell. Take cars for example, we have reviewed The RC Lab, the Yokomo, the Associated TC3, the Xray, we have reviews on the XXX-s, the Corally C4.1, The Schumacher Mission and the Corraly 12M coming soon too. We have a readers review of the Losi Nitro Truck and our review HPI Micro has just arrived. You will note that we only sell one of these, the RC Lab and also Serpent which we have NOT reviewed.

I really rate the RC Lab and make no secret of that and the review clearly states my position in regards to that car. If you take the time to read some of the reviews you will see that one of my other really rated touring cars is the TC3, don't sell them though.

We have tyre and bodyshell reviews, don't sell them, we have the ProTrak charger review coming when I can get it below a billion pages cos it does so much. A totally new tyre removing product, we dont sell that.

So you can see why I might object to your suggestion that I heavily plug thing in our shop.

Take a look at http://www.rcracenews.co.uk/ubb/Forum1/HTML/000150.html where some guy asks for suggestions for a new car from his list (that does include the Lab) check my reply and see just how hard I tried to get him to buy a car from our shop ?

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and NO ...

I don't think rcracenews is rubbish

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Old 12-17-2001, 03:47 PM   #30
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Well that's that little teaser sorted then.

Get rid of the real-names rule and you might find a few more people posting on the forum.

And, quite honestly, i wish you luck with the shop - I know it's tricky to make a living out of r/c.
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