ChadCapece

This isn't at jayrodacer.

Why do so many people want to copy the professoinals setups? There's NO way they are going to work for them b/c these people are not professional racers. And even more amusing is when someone wants to use Racer X's setup for their home track. It is a waste of time and money to try and duplicate Racer X setup and apply it to your own driving style. I bet there have been a hundred post on this thread asking about HARA, MOORE, THAD, ect...When will the maddness end. Please folks, don't waste your time copying the pro's because you don't have new tires each run, and 1.20 cells, and 7x1 motors, and prototype speedos, and prototype drivetrains.

AMGRacer

My Pro 4 came with 4 sets of the black springs with the colored ends and the silver, black and gold swaybars in the box. Is this what the version 1.1 normally comes with?

BerNardLee

My ver 1.1 came with gold and silver spring and both black color sway bar.

I thought this is standard package, isn't it?

AMGRacer

Thats what I thought. But I got these extra parts, and they are not mentioned in the instructions at any point.

Entropy

Maybe it was an offer package or he bought it second hand. There have been some wierd packages like the Summer Campaign version in Japan.

AMGRacer

Hmmmm perhaps I got an unusual version. It is new however.

BerNardLee

Is your box come with the sealed label?

Nipple

iTrader: (1)

Don't worry, I think he did get a Brand New Kit.
I think I read before somewhere (in this thread I think). That some new kits comes with the new springs and all 3 anti roll bars.

AMGRacer

Ahhh I am an idiot. Right on the front of the box is a sticker saying 2004 edition. It then lists the parts that I mentioned to you guys.

domo

iTrader: (16)

where did you order the kit from?

I just got my pro4 from tower 2-3 weeks ago, and it didnt even include the 1.1 gears....

(i even emailed them before ordering and they assured me it would be the 1.1 version)

AMGRacer

I got mine from my LHS. Seems to be a Japanese version of the kit and it has all the v1.1 gear in it. It also came with the 0, 2, 4, and 6 degree caster blocks. Is this normal?

BerNardLee

The 1.1 version would come with a sticker on the box stated ver 1.1.

No sticker means old version

JDM_DOHC_SiR

iTrader: (31)

Yes this is normal

jihernandez

Was looking at the set-up of Hara and some other guys and was puzzled on the formula for pro-squat/anti-dive for the rear and anti-dive/kick-up for the front using the bulk spacers. Anyone knows the formula here?

I noticed that having the same spacer thickness in the F/R and front toe-in blocks will result to 0 deg anti-dive/kick-up. I saw a set-up sheet that had a thicker spacer in the F/R compared to the front toe-in block spacer and this resulted in -0.8 anti-dive.

Can anyone educate me on how you compute? Thanks.

BerNardLee

I also interested to know this, and if possible can explain the effect of changing it.

Thanks in advance