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Old 11-20-2007, 10:29 PM   #76
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can you PM me. i have a question about jaco nitro shoes and the kyosho EVO one rrr
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Old 11-26-2007, 01:33 PM   #77
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Old 11-29-2007, 07:17 PM   #78
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scarecrow - Why, are you actually going to race??

tofu - Just e-mail me via the cefx or cefxraceway sites. I don't have PM's on here...
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Old 11-29-2007, 07:54 PM   #79
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Josh - What did you end up with for setup at Cleveland with the Phoenix? Also, what did Mike end up running for setup?
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Old 11-29-2007, 09:36 PM   #80
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Apex - Here's what we ran:

Josh:

.018 front springs w/ 30K Kyosho
10 degree blocks w/castor shims 1/1
1 degree camber
1 degree toe out
3.5mm ride height
Jaco Double Pink Prism @ 1.64 w/ 30% Paragon

.062 Bias cut t-bar w/ all four pod screws
Hot Bodies center shock w/40wt & Green spring
.020 under the front of the t-bar
Kyosho 15k in the tubes
Rear width @ max
4.0mm ride height
Jaco Magenta Prism @ 1.70 w/ full Paragon

Mike - I'm not sure on everything but here's what I know was different:

.020 front springs w/ Kyosho 15K
10 degree blocks with both shims in the back
1.5-2 degrees camber

.072 t-bar w/ only 2 screws

There may have been 1-2 other things different between our cars but I'm not 100%. I know those were the main differences.
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Old 11-29-2007, 10:01 PM   #81
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Josh I know this might sound dumb but what do you mean by ".018 front springs w/ 30K Kyosho" I know about the from spring but where do you use the 30k Kyosho lube? Thanks in advance for the 411
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Old 11-29-2007, 10:05 PM   #82
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Roly - Just put a little bit of the grease on the king pin under the suspension ball. Then move the king pin up and down a few times to work the grease into the pivot ball. Push the king pin up until it's flush with the bottom of the pivot ball and wipe off the excess grease. Slap the spring on and it's good to go. Don't put any grease on the top side of the ball as it will cause the steering block/king pin to "stick" to the top of the pivot ball. This usually causes a strange initial understeer that is really inconsistant....
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Old 11-29-2007, 10:15 PM   #83
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Ok makes scence I checked out Adam Depiros EVO2 the last time I ran with him and man that's a sweet ride. Good luck and continued success Josh
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Old 11-29-2007, 10:18 PM   #84
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How many are built now Josh?
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Old 11-30-2007, 05:04 AM   #85
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Apex - Here's what we ran:

Josh:

.018 front springs w/ 30K Kyosho
10 degree blocks w/castor shims 1/1
1 degree camber
1 degree toe out
3.5mm ride height
Jaco Double Pink Prism @ 1.64 w/ 30% Paragon

.062 Bias cut t-bar w/ all four pod screws
Hot Bodies center shock w/40wt & Green spring
.020 under the front of the t-bar
Kyosho 15k in the tubes
Rear width @ max
4.0mm ride height
Jaco Magenta Prism @ 1.70 w/ full Paragon

Mike - I'm not sure on everything but here's what I know was different:

.020 front springs w/ Kyosho 15K
10 degree blocks with both shims in the back
1.5-2 degrees camber

.072 t-bar w/ only 2 screws

There may have been 1-2 other things different between our cars but I'm not 100%. I know those were the main differences.
Thanks Josh! One more question - What do you use for t-bar spacers and how thick are the spacers?
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Old 11-30-2007, 05:51 PM   #86
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Apex - I use some of the TC aluminum ball stud shims to space the t-bar/bottom plate. Normally, I run 2mm (.080") with a .062 t-bar. If you want more steering (sometimes may traction roll) you can run 2.5mm (.100"). Normally, out of the box we start with 2 of the nylon .030 spacers for a total of .060 (1.5mm). This is a safe starting point that usually gives a little bit of understeer.
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Josh- What do you feel the washer under the front t bar pivot ball does for the car? Thanks, some great advice here!
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Ffejdat - Usually, adding a spacer under the front of the t-bar makes the car more aggressive (more steering) in the center of the corner. In stock, we normally can run more shims (thicker) due to the fact that you aren't lifting on and off the throttle so much. Modified, we usually run about 1/2 the amount that we would in stock due to the heavy acceleration and deceleration.
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Carpet Oval Nats changed: April 30th-May 4th
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Thanks Josh!
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