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Old 01-24-2008, 07:48 AM
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I need to get one of these.

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Old 01-24-2008, 01:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Stein Tumert View Post
Best recommendation I can give is that you test both. You may have personal preferences, one likes this and another that....


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I can agree more than with Stein.
for carpet/rubber - on some tracks, and on some days the 6speed is better, and on others not.
thats why I personally bring both with me.
i use to bring a mazda and a stratus 3.0AP - now its the 6 and 6speed.

and difference is stability, downforce, speed
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Old 01-24-2008, 04:00 PM
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I need to get one of these.

Which shop is that?
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Old 01-24-2008, 05:47 PM
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Old 01-24-2008, 06:11 PM
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Guys are there any available motor mount for the 416 to be able to fit a silvercan because we have a club race entry level which uses the mabuchi silvercan as a control motor
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Old 01-24-2008, 11:13 PM
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Guys are there any available motor mount for the 416 to be able to fit a silvercan because we have a club race entry level which uses the mabuchi silvercan as a control motor
That is a good question. I wonder if it was something they over looked. I just tried to fit a silver can into mine and it's a NO GO. Hmmmm, perhaps you can space the motor out with some shims until they make one. Some companies make an aluminum motor spacer.
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Old 01-24-2008, 11:39 PM
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Why won't a 540 silver can motor fit?
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Old 01-24-2008, 11:41 PM
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Regular 27t and other brushed motors will fit just fine. But the Johnson and Mabuchi motors will not fit because the bushing housing protruding from the front of the motor is too large and will not fit into the motor mount.
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Old 01-24-2008, 11:48 PM
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Originally Posted by oME View Post
Guys are there any available motor mount for the 416 to be able to fit a silvercan because we have a club race entry level which uses the mabuchi silvercan as a control motor
Originally Posted by JimmyMac View Post
That is a good question. I wonder if it was something they over looked. I just tried to fit a silver can into mine and it's a NO GO. Hmmmm, perhaps you can space the motor out with some shims until they make one. Some companies make an aluminum motor spacer.
How about this 1 from Speedmind, but i'm not sure if this stuff could fix your troublesome.
Maybe you must machinizing it if doesn't fit.
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Old 01-25-2008, 12:04 AM
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Originally Posted by JimmyMac View Post
Regular 27t and other brushed motors will fit just fine. But the Johnson and Mabuchi motors will not fit because the bushing housing protruding from the front of the motor is too large and will not fit into the motor mount.
Oh, I see...that is a problem!
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Hey guys,

My local racetrack is holding a TCS race this year and I have decided to dump my trusty XRay, buy a 416 and run it. Can you tell me what to expect as far as which parts I should stock because of breaking (suspension arms, hub carriers, steering knuckles, bent dogbones?), what upgrades I will need immediately (one way, spool, spring set?), and what else I can expect from this new car? I've already heard alot of talk about a modified suspension arm that everyone seems to be running.

Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated... thx.
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Originally Posted by Nathan Parker View Post
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You can speak Mr Parker... I know you've gone back to blue

BTW, if any one is interested, the parts required for a spool for the 416 at the moment....

TAM3454401 Direct Holder (TRF415 MSX MRE Aluminium spool)
TAM9804268 Direct Cup (TRF415 MSX MRE Delrin outdrive)
TAM9804267 Direct Coupling (TRF415 MSX MRE outdrive sleeve)
TAM53500 2x9.8mm pins (2 required)
Also, not required, but useful if you like to quick change...
TAM54203 37t One-way pulley
TAM51278 K-Parts (has the bearing holders on)

Then mount the drive pulley to the other side of the spool, and ream out the 416 bearing holders for clearence of the sleeve. Pictures here... MRE Spool in the 416

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Originally Posted by StickyFingaz View Post
Hey guys,

My local racetrack is holding a TCS race this year and I have decided to dump my trusty XRay, buy a 416 and run it. Can you tell me what to expect as far as which parts I should stock because of breaking (suspension arms, hub carriers, steering knuckles, bent dogbones?), what upgrades I will need immediately (one way, spool, spring set?), and what else I can expect from this new car? I've already heard alot of talk about a modified suspension arm that everyone seems to be running.

Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated... thx.
Hey,

In terms of parts breakages, the car is pretty strong. Just grab a spare set of arms (although I'll come back to that in a minute), hubs (F&R) and steering knuckles. The c-hubs do seem a little more fragile now though, so best to grab a couple of sets, just in case.

Personally, I don't want for the aluminium front dogbones (seem to twist a bit easy), but the 46mm steel ones from the 415 fit (TAM51092) as long as you remove the o-ring from the 1way outdrive.

In terms of extras... pretty much everyone seems to be using the Short LWT arms now (TAM5928 2sets required, as 1F and 1R in a pack), regardless of surface. You just need to sand a little material from the right hand rear driveshaft blade to make sure it clears the diff nut, nothing serious.

Two of TAM53440 should cover all your springs needs (4 pairs of springs, red, yellow, blue, white), although HPI and Xray springs also fit.
1 of TAM53842 is a roll bar set (although it's labelled as for the TA05, fits the 416 and 415. Soft, med, & hard in the pack)

Other parts... some extra suspension blocks are a good idea. To start;
2x 1D (TAM51068)
1x 1XA (TAM53808)
1x1X (TAM51069)
1x1E (TAM53896)
should have you covered for a range of track width and toe-in settings.

Apart from that lot... well a spool as in my post above can be had, but thats it really.

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You can speak Mr Parker... I know you've gone back to blue

BTW, if any one is interested, the parts required for a spool for the 416 at the moment....

TAM3454401 Direct Holder (TRF415 MSX MRE Aluminium spool)
TAM9804268 Direct Cup (TRF415 MSX MRE Delrin outdrive)
TAM9804267 Direct Coupling (TRF415 MSX MRE outdrive sleeve)
TAM53500 2x9.8mm pins (2 required)
Also, not required, but useful if you like to quick change...
TAM54203 37t One-way pulley
TAM51278 K-Parts (has the bearing holders on)

Then mount the drive pulley to the other side of the spool, and ream out the 416 bearing holders for clearence of the sleeve. Pictures here... MRE Spool in the 416

Regards
Ed

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