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Old 08-22-2010, 07:47 PM
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Old 08-22-2010, 07:48 PM
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Originally Posted by STLNLST View Post
What class are you running the gear diff in? I hear it doesn't hold up too well in mod.
i use it on 11.5T BL motor with stock spec ESC. the packaging says it's for pro-stock only so i guess what you heard is true. i personally haven't tested it with mod motor. the gears are smaller so perhaps that contribute to durability issue in mod class.
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Old 08-22-2010, 07:51 PM
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I sent them a email earlier today. The thicker chassis seems the best for carpet/rubber.
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Old 08-22-2010, 10:32 PM
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So who has tested 600-700 weight shock oil with silvers? I ran Front 550 Rear 500 and I felt it was way to soft. Way to much roll. This was based off of a Jilles setup. I'm going to try F 700-R 500. I'm pretty sure it is gonna be supa dialed..
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Old 08-22-2010, 11:56 PM
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Originally Posted by CraigM View Post
I'm should have the 3R diff in my hot little hands this weekend, it'll be interesting to compare it to the Spec R one
hi CraigM

have you tryed the geardiff yet ?
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Old 08-23-2010, 04:20 AM
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Originally Posted by StevenOlsen View Post
hi CraigM

have you tryed the geardiff yet ?
No I haven't had a chance, but I did write a build review

http://tchub.wordpress.com/2010/08/2...ar-diff-build/
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Old 08-23-2010, 05:00 AM
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Nice write up Craig! Good luck at SA!

The 3R diff looks like a better design than the Spec-R, in particular with the big chunky shims. The only thing I don't like are the aluminium outdrives which I think will wear a bit over time. The hardened steel outdrives on the Spec-R diff have very little wear, even in mod. The 3R price is pretty good though...
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Originally Posted by CraigM View Post
No I haven't had a chance, but I did write a build review

http://tchub.wordpress.com/2010/08/2...ar-diff-build/
really good guide.

the serpent S400 geardiff is olso build with a large oring.

i have 3 diffs on the way with kyosho 1.000, 2.000, 100.000, 300.000, 500.000 oil will try to run it both in front and rear

hopefully whey will be here before practice wednesday
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Old 08-23-2010, 05:35 AM
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hpi silver spring anyone??
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Old 08-23-2010, 06:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Owen RaCing View Post
So who has tested 600-700 weight shock oil with silvers? I ran Front 550 Rear 500 and I felt it was way to soft. Way to much roll. This was based off of a Jilles setup. I'm going to try F 700-R 500. I'm pretty sure it is gonna be supa dialed..
At Nats I tried 60wt losi up front with 45wt losi in the rear and hated the way it made the car feel. It made the car feel really lazy...

On high bite asphalt 45wt losi oil with hpi silvers felt really great. What tires are you using?
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I pretty much always stick to 40-50wt oil (either the same all around, or 5wt heavier in the front). I either run 17lb springs all around (Tamiya White), or 19lb front (Serpent Orange), and 17lb rear (Tamiya White or Serpent Yellow). Track is outdoor asphalt, smooth. High to very high grip.
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At Nats I tried 60wt losi up front with 45wt losi in the rear and hated the way it made the car feel. It made the car feel really lazy...

On high bite asphalt 45wt losi oil with hpi silvers felt really great. What tires are you using?
SJR 36's and 40's. I ran this set up but felt the car was soft (more roll that I am comfortable with) and did not have enough steering. The steering part is irrelevant, due to the fact that a after race rebuilt/inspection found both front CVD pins pulled out of the hole and were binding inside the hub. Must not have got a good tighten on them or something

Before next race, I have lowered the front inner camber link, 700-500, gear diff. Still kinda up in the air on what else to do. I don't know much on how the 416 acts to changes yet, so I am just trowing stuff at it until it works.
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Originally Posted by M-Technic View Post
I pretty much always stick to 40-50wt oil (either the same all around, or 5wt heavier in the front). I either run 17lb springs all around (Tamiya White), or 19lb front (Serpent Orange), and 17lb rear (Tamiya White or Serpent Yellow). Track is outdoor asphalt, smooth. High to very high grip.
I should get another set of Tamiya whites to try all around, do you know the feel difference from white to silvers? Both are 17 pound springs.
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Originally Posted by Owen RaCing View Post
I should get another set of Tamiya whites to try all around, do you know the feel difference from white to silvers? Both are 17 pound springs.
I haven't tried the two back to back. Have you tried Gold's up front? If your bite is high enough running gold/silver will really increase your corner speed and the car should feel like it has more steering. If running Gold's make it feel pushy, like there is too much rear traction, use shims to raise your rear roll center another .5-1mm under the toe blocks.
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