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Old 06-01-2010, 06:09 PM
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Originally Posted by linger View Post
Me: "Hey Kiyo - go get me a coke"
Kiyo: "go away don't bother me"
Me: "Here's my 416 - can you rebuild it for me"
Kiyo: "Pbbttthhhh"


Funny.
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Old 06-01-2010, 07:51 PM
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Ling,

Great Run man... Was nice to meet you too... I drove semi-hackish ( normal ) .. and missed my setup in the heat. When the track was a little cooler, my car was DAILLED...

I spent Monday at the track too, and got my 13.5 car on point.. the SP stuff was as fast as the Tekins...

I ran the gear diff in both cars....
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Old 06-02-2010, 02:00 AM
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Originally Posted by jonest View Post
I wonder why would they spaced up the motor bulkhead by 1mm? Better rotation? How about the diff pulley then, is it spaced up too?
Probably to allow the car to roll more without the motor touching the ground.

Looks like they where running High diffs as well (faster laptimes)
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Old 06-02-2010, 03:14 AM
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Originally Posted by linger View Post
Finally recovered from the Reedy Race.

Pics from Reedy of Victors Car.

Tamiya japan has finally admitted that Lipos exist.

The lipo specific chassis that Marc, Victor and Thomas Prumpler were running were definitly Tamiya based. Marc said some of the chassis were different and will probably not represent the real thing since they are still testing different thicknesses, cutouts etc. Victor had about 3 fully built chassis on his table with minor differences between each.

Notice that the motor bulkhead is spaced up about 1mm.

My conversation with Marc:
Me: "why is the motor bulkhead spaced up 1 mm?"
Marc: "I dunno...Kiyo did it"
Me: "What oil are you running?"
Marc: "I dunno, Kiyo built it"
Me: "What springs are you running?"
Marc: "Oh, I know- HPI Silver!!"

Another trick part was a TOP gear diff that looked very tiny, very light and very slick. It stole it from EJ and it would take very little to make it fit a 416.

The race was awesome. I wish I had more time to dial in my car. I
Tim Potter - glad to finally meet you! Thanks for coming out.

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Extra screw in the rear shocktower, any idea what was on the other side of the tower?
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Old 06-02-2010, 03:26 AM
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Originally Posted by bjspinner View Post
Extra screw in the rear shocktower, any idea what was on the other side of the tower?
It seems to me that they mount the body posts on it.
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Old 06-02-2010, 05:17 AM
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my guess would be, although the 1mm shims under the motorbulkhead etc alters the flex, the main reason could be the fit of the new lipo generation (50C) which is approx. 25mm in height but could increase further in future times. now, e.g. the LRP 50C 5900 and others wont fit under the topdeck of the 416 as they are too high. with this little trick the problem would be solved. now we have to wait or try for our selfs (i know i will) how the flex is different compared to the un-shimmed bulkhead etc.
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Old 06-02-2010, 06:20 AM
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Originally Posted by jonest View Post
It seems to me that they mount the body posts on it.
The screw would be on the other side of the tower then.No prize for you
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Old 06-02-2010, 07:36 AM
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Extra screw looks like it's holding in a horizontal body post, presumably to help prevent body tucks.
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Old 06-02-2010, 10:32 AM
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Originally Posted by syndr0me View Post
Extra screw looks like it's holding in a horizontal body post, presumably to help prevent body tucks.
Bingo!
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Hope to see more pix of their car, to get their setup.
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Old 06-02-2010, 02:25 PM
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More @ http://kentech.blogs.se now.
Plenty of pics.

Originally Posted by linger View Post
kentech - wow, who makes that chassis? That's definitly not what TRF was running. The motor still sticks out a bit even in the X chassis. I wish they would move it in some more in the next version.
Had it made based on some ideas I've had for some time. See blog.
Already have an extra motor mount to be machined down and chassis already designed for this. But this will only move it in max 1.5mm. Ideally need a totally new motor mount similar to the HB TCX but that requires a bit too much...as well as a redesigned upper deck. Will wait for the 417 for that

Originally Posted by Hebiki View Post
thats one narrow chassis. is this a preview of what tamiya could possibly be doing?
Who knows, could be, but then I would expect a 417 to be the next car and that could be totally different...
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cool looking chassis there. so when are you going to do comparison tests between your experimental car and the std 416x? would love to see the lap times and read about your conclusions.
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Old 06-03-2010, 12:13 PM
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When can I get one of those narrow chassis
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Originally Posted by seankyew View Post
cool looking chassis there. so when are you going to do comparison tests between your experimental car and the std 416x? would love to see the lap times and read about your conclusions.
Looks like the weekend. I have one standard car prepared to compare with.
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Old 06-03-2010, 02:24 PM
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Hi Kenneth!

That's a great project! Hope it works (make it work!).

If you become satisfied with the results, consider selling the chassis and top deck through Racing Factory, will you?

Good luck.

Friendly regards from Portugal,
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