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Old 05-03-2010, 10:20 AM
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Originally Posted by vitomon View Post
hi guys, just wondering if anybody had the same problem. i built my exotek for the 416 yesterday. i have the one with the steel battery holders. anyway, the steel brackets and the upper carbon thingy to hold the battery tape are too high so that the steering cant move properly. i had to reduce the overall steering from 115EPA to 85 epa on my m11x so that the steering wont puch against the steel brackets. very strange design i must say.

has anyone sorted this thing out besides going to the other more rear battery position. i dont like to to that because a moved back battery in my mind reduces steering ?!

has anyone had this issues with the carbon battery holders in the exotek?
I have an Exotek 416XL, I noticed this problem too...but in the end I just move the batts to the rear position (same as 416X). Maybe if I use the optional carbon batt holder then I can use the forward position without any issue. Also, you can't use the most inner batt position coz the same problem will occur with the front 'L' shape weight touching the steering post.
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Old 05-03-2010, 11:23 AM
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Hi guys,

I just completed my 416x build and had a quick setup question. I'm setting up my ride height and noticed that only on the front the shock collars are not even left to right. My car is balanced left to right and from what I can tell everything is built according to the manual. My concern is that the spring rate will be off as the driver side spring is compressed slightly more then the passenger side.

Driver side:
Tamiya TRF416 / TRF416WE / TRF416X-driver.jpg

Passenger side:
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I do not have this issue with my TB Evo 5 MS. All 4 suspension have an even amount of spring compression to achieve the desired ride height. What am I missing?

Thanks in advance.

-John
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Old 05-03-2010, 11:27 AM
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Can you notch out the steel battery holder with a dremel cutting disk to allow the needed clearance for the steering post / rack... etc ?

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I have an Exotek 416XL, I noticed this problem too...but in the end I just move the batts to the rear position (same as 416X). Maybe if I use the optional carbon batt holder then I can use the forward position without any issue. Also, you can't use the most inner batt position coz the same problem will occur with the front 'L' shape weight touching the steering post.
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Old 05-03-2010, 11:47 AM
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Originally Posted by double_green View Post
Hi guys,

I just completed my 416x build and had a quick setup question. I'm setting up my ride height and noticed that only on the front the shock collars are not even left to right. My car is balanced left to right and from what I can tell everything is built according to the manual. My concern is that the spring rate will be off as the driver side spring is compressed slightly more then the passenger side.

Driver side:
Attachment 588185

Passenger side:
Attachment 588187


I do not have this issue with my TB Evo 5 MS. All 4 suspension have an even amount of spring compression to achieve the desired ride height. What am I missing?

Thanks in advance.

-John
First things first...what is the length of each of your shocks? Make sure they are all equal. Also, did you make sure you have the blue springs up front and the yellows in the rear. If you have them mismatched that could also be a cause of why you need to have one side screwed down more than the other. The only other thing I can think of is you have one suspension arm reversed...each side of the arm has the mounting position further in or out depending on which side you use. This can be easily overlooked when you are building the kit
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Old 05-03-2010, 11:48 AM
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This look like quite a substantial amount! Check that the lower spring retainer is seated correctly over the bottom ball cup. Also check the car for tweak and check the springs are the same length. i assuma you have the car fully loaded with electronics? Check you dont have the droop screws cranked down unevenly
Originally Posted by double_green View Post
Hi guys,

I just completed my 416x build and had a quick setup question. I'm setting up my ride height and noticed that only on the front the shock collars are not even left to right. My car is balanced left to right and from what I can tell everything is built according to the manual. My concern is that the spring rate will be off as the driver side spring is compressed slightly more then the passenger side.

Driver side:
Attachment 588185

Passenger side:
Attachment 588187


I do not have this issue with my TB Evo 5 MS. All 4 suspension have an even amount of spring compression to achieve the desired ride height. What am I missing?

Thanks in advance.

-John
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Old 05-03-2010, 03:28 PM
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Restock !
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Anyone knows the size of ballbearings for the diff? it's the 850 bearing.
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Originally Posted by cheehtae View Post
Anyone knows the size of ballbearings for the diff? it's the 850 bearing.
850 means its a 5mm x 8mm bearing.
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Originally Posted by Turbonium View Post
850 means its a 5mm x 8mm bearing.
OK tnx, what's the inner diameter?
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Originally Posted by cheehtae View Post
OK tnx, what's the inner diameter?
5mm inner diameter
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Originally Posted by cheehtae View Post
OK tnx, what's the inner diameter?
5mm inner x 8mm outer x 2.5mm width
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Originally Posted by double_green View Post
Hi guys,

I just completed my 416x build and had a quick setup question. I'm setting up my ride height and noticed that only on the front the shock collars are not even left to right. My car is balanced left to right and from what I can tell everything is built according to the manual. My concern is that the spring rate will be off as the driver side spring is compressed slightly more then the passenger side.

-John
check the length of the shocks, from the top collar to the bottom,they should all be 61.5mm, then make sure your droop is equal left to right
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Can anyone point me in the right direction for a 416X PDF Manual dowload?
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Can anyone point me in the right direction for a 416X PDF Manual dowload?
http://www.tamiya.com/japan/download...162trf416x.pdf
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Old 05-06-2010, 07:02 AM
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Thanks

With 1C front blocks is it better to run 44mm or 46mm drive shafts?

do 46mm bind?
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