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Old 03-04-2010, 08:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Davzone View Post
There is no white in the pack?
I thought it will be the same as the wilky blue set but black.
Anyway it looks great!
Those are the "Short" springs for the mini chassis. Black colored version of 53333. No white spring contained:

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Old 03-04-2010, 09:24 AM
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Originally Posted by 94eg! View Post
Those are the "Short" springs for the mini chassis. Black colored version of 53333. No white spring contained:

Yeah, those are for the mini and they are really soft. I first used it for my TA02. Too soft for TC imo unless you are running in a really dusty track or even wet. Mainly use those for my mini.
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Old 03-04-2010, 09:31 AM
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Anyone going to try out the new exotek lipo chassis?

http://www.exotekracing.com/EXOTEK_N.../22_416XL.html
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looks really good but myself, i'll be buying the smokem chassis. i like the way that one is made, simple as far the weights i can manage. besides i dont have 30 dollars more for the exotek chassis let alone the extra 15 for the batt. strap
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Originally Posted by redbones View Post
Yeah, those are for the mini and they are really soft. I first used it for my TA02. Too soft for TC imo unless you are running in a really dusty track or even wet. Mainly use those for my mini.
According to this chart floating around, they are actually stiffer than the corrosponding TC springs of the same color. That makes sense since a shorter spring of the same diameter wire will have a higher rate.

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Originally Posted by redbones View Post
Anyone going to try out the new exotek lipo chassis?

http://www.exotekracing.com/EXOTEK_N.../22_416XL.html
Nope, got my own being made as we speak
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Old 03-04-2010, 02:41 PM
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Actually, there's three springs sets around...

The standard ones (53440/49389/49382) are the ones we all use anyway.
The short ones are 53333, as are the new black ones...
And there are also the 53163 springs, which are the ubber soft ones included with the Pro-mod suspension (bottom three of the chart

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Old 03-04-2010, 04:11 PM
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Where can I get a lipo chassis asap??? Exotek or Smokem
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Old 03-04-2010, 04:28 PM
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Originally Posted by tandman View Post
Where can I get a lipo chassis asap??? Exotek or Smokem
If you need one right now, I would pick the Exotek. Smokem is still waiting for the first batch that is coming soon...
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Exotek is listed as coming soon. So looks like a wait on both...
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Originally Posted by Mr_Orange View Post
The old suspension blocks (only A-E) for the 415 are slightly wider then newer 416 ones. The 415 blocks were designed for the old suspension (TA04) on the original 415 which uses ~50mm suspension shafts. This was later changed to 46mm shafts with slightly more toe in the rear as result. This was corrected with the new blocks. As comparsion on 46mm shafts: XA-old E = 3.2 degrees, XA-new E = 3 degrees.
That makes a lot of sense. Thanks for the explanation.
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Originally Posted by 94eg! View Post
According to this chart floating around, they are actually stiffer than the corrosponding TC springs of the same color. That makes sense since a shorter spring of the same diameter wire will have a higher rate.

Redbone is right. The 53333 spring set is very soft. I too still have them from the TA02 days and they are way softer than any current touring springs. Their wire diameters are quite small so they are probably the ProMod springs from that chart.
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Has anyone documented the range of gearing that will fit in the standard 416X chassis?

ie: a 50 spur won't mesh with a 19 pinion (as an extreme example)

48P and 64P data would be helpful.
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Phil,

I don't know that anyone has done anything formal on min/max gearing, but I know at about 80t the clearance is starting to get a bit marginal for spur gears in 48dp
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Originally Posted by TryHard View Post
Nope, got my own being made as we speak
any news on price, Ed?
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