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Old 02-08-2010, 03:19 PM
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XRAY parts is harder than Tamiya !
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Old 02-08-2010, 03:26 PM
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Hi All,
Anyone running the PPD tray with Thunder Power 5200's? If so, how's the clearence? I did search through the entire Thread, but there's not much about Lipo trays in there.
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Originally Posted by ittjv View Post
Hi All,
Anyone running the PPD tray with Thunder Power 5200's? If so, how's the clearence? I did search through the entire Thread, but there's not much about Lipo trays in there.
Thanks!
Another tray to check out would be the Manutech Racing tray. The pack is offset at the rear to counter-balance the motor's weight and should fit any pack with no fitment problems.
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Old 02-08-2010, 06:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Zooberg View Post
I have a Xray T3 today. and some details, I am not happy with. For example, dampers are worthless. leaking oil. C-hubs cracks in casting joint limits.

Is it the same problem with the 416X?

What is an Xray T3 Host today after 2 races?
Maybe the wrong forum igent but try

How much does a Tamiya 416X costs?
I went through the same shit with the T3. Then I bought a 416x the car is so much easier to drive.The parts are fragile tho
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Old 02-08-2010, 08:10 PM
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I went through the same shit with the T3. Then I bought a 416x the car is so much easier to drive.The parts are fragile tho
I recently picked up a 416we after owning 4 T2 007's for the last 2 years and I have to say this car is a mother f#$% to drive. It has a tremendous amount of low speed steering which makes it difficult to keep from oversteering but yet it pushes when you get on the throttle. I know I'm new to this car and need to rethink the setup compared to an Xray but it just does not seem right. I've tried numerous things to no avail so far. I'm going to try an actually Tamiya servo saver instead of the black Kimbroug I have and hope it fixes my oversteer issue.

On top of that the parts are much more fragile, 3 arms in two times out with the car that never would have broke in my XRay. So I'm going to end up with a bucket full of rear arms by the end of this year.

Iím not one to give up quickly on something so Iíll continue to try and make this work it just going to be frustrating. I know itís got be possible seeing itís won so many titles and 2 of the fastest drivers at our track or using this car.

Enough venting for now hopefully things will get better soon.

If anyone has tips on severe oversteer please post.
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Old 02-08-2010, 08:19 PM
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Sounds like you need to completely go through your car and rebuild it with a kit setup. Follow Jilles's videos when building it. I have raced xray cars for the past 2 years and still do. I also own a 416x that works perfectly and have no complaints.
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Old 02-08-2010, 08:58 PM
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I actually did completely rebuild it this weekend before trying to use it again on Sunday. It did get better but still oversteers at slower speeds and turning fairly tight. This is why I believe it may be the servo saver I'm using.

New one should arrive tomorrow and I'll be trying it on Thur.
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Old 02-08-2010, 09:04 PM
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Jilles latest setup from the snowbirds race is very good My 416X and WE both work very well with this setup. Pay attention to droop settings compared to ride height as they are a very sensitive tuning aid.
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Don't bother with the Tamiya servo saver it moves quit easliy
everyone I know uses a kimbrough. By far the best around

try laying your back shocks down one hole

If not go back to the book settings
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Old 02-08-2010, 09:32 PM
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when it is expected that there will be a new verision of 416?
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Old 02-08-2010, 11:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Senna Racing View Post
Don't bother with the Tamiya servo saver it moves quit easliy
everyone I know uses a kimbrough. By far the best around

try laying your back shocks down one hole

If not go back to the book settings
I thought the kimbrough saver's arm was too short so you can't get full steering?
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Old 02-09-2010, 12:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Zooberg View Post
when it is expected that there will be a new verision of 416?
The "X" is the new version and I wouldn't expect to see something newer for a while.
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Old 02-09-2010, 12:19 AM
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Originally Posted by bkspeedo View Post
I recently picked up a 416we after owning 4 T2 007's for the last 2 years and I have to say this car is a mother f#$% to drive. It has a tremendous amount of low speed steering which makes it difficult to keep from oversteering but yet it pushes when you get on the throttle. I know I'm new to this car and need to rethink the setup compared to an Xray but it just does not seem right. I've tried numerous things to no avail so far. I'm going to try an actually Tamiya servo saver instead of the black Kimbroug I have and hope it fixes my oversteer issue.

On top of that the parts are much more fragile, 3 arms in two times out with the car that never would have broke in my XRay. So I'm going to end up with a bucket full of rear arms by the end of this year.

Iím not one to give up quickly on something so Iíll continue to try and make this work it just going to be frustrating. I know itís got be possible seeing itís won so many titles and 2 of the fastest drivers at our track or using this car.

Enough venting for now hopefully things will get better soon.

If anyone has tips on severe oversteer please post.
Why don't you ask the fast guys running the 416's for some help?
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I have one in all my 3 cars


416 416 we and in 416 x

And I can lock the wheels I bought directions


In facted it's always said that I have to much
steering
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Originally Posted by bkspeedo View Post
I actually did completely rebuild it this weekend before trying to use it again on Sunday. It did get better but still oversteers at slower speeds and turning fairly tight. This is why I believe it may be the servo saver I'm using.

New one should arrive tomorrow and I'll be trying it on Thur.
It's highily unlikely that you're problem is the servo saver. If anything, the kimbrough will have less steering than the tamiya because its softer. If you tell us what surface you're running on, and what tyres then we can help you out.
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