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Old 01-28-2010, 05:00 PM
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Hey guys, just a quick update on the 416X. I won my first regional race this past weekend (since switching to Tamiya) against some pretty fast guys and must say that the X is a step above the WE. My X had wicked corner speed and very good straight line stability that made it easier for me to drive around the other guys in tight situations. I took the win in Touring Stock with the X and 3rd in Touring Superstock with WE. I was very close to Joe Glovers setup on both cars except that as traction came up I added 1mm shims under the outside camber links to keep the car from traction rolling....this change actually worked very well, and I have been experimenting with front arm sweep and ran an F-block in the front mount position to give me 1.5 degrees of arm sweep.....this worked very well in the high speed sweeping sections of the track.
Thanks.........Dwayne Flodell
Great to hear the set-up is working for you! Great job showing the Xray's the way around the track too

With guys using the HPI springs other than the silver what other spring is good to have. Are these better on asphalt or carpet. I've been using the Tamyia spring and really like them but would like to try a progressive spring out.
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Old 01-28-2010, 05:28 PM
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Can anyone tell me how many teeth that are on the folllowing belts below?

6244017 TRF416 Rear Belt
6244016 TRF416 Front Belt

54144 TRF416 WE Rear Belt


Just curious if they would be a good size to fit on the TRF415 with 36T Front and Rear pulleys and the 18T center pulley setup.

I got most of the other belt sizes of the whole TRF415 series and 416X car belts. I did order some Hot Bodies Cyclone car belts 170T front and 62T rear for this setup.
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Ionly have the WE belts which are a low friction type.
In the past Tamiya low friction belts are usally 1 tooth
Shorter than the stock belts. Go figure.
Tamiya # 54143 416 low friction front belt 172 tooth 516mm long.
Tamiya # 54144 416 low friction rear belt 58 tooth 174mm long.

For your 415 with 18/36 pullies your looking for around180mm rear,
507mm front.
HB belts work OK

XRay 30-5431 High performance Kevlar front belt 169 tooth 507mm long and
XRay 30-5442 High performance Kevlar rear belt 60 tooth 180mm long are constructed with material that is very similar to the new Tamiya low friction belts
and work the treat on my 415 for years now.
Please everyone , excuse me for using the X word on a tamiya site
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Old 01-28-2010, 05:55 PM
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Thanks Joe, the Tamiya is really working well for me right now. The Xray guys did not have the corner speed to keep up....2 tenths a lap faster is quite a bit in 17.5 considering we were all running the Tekin RS esc's I have a WCICS series race in 2 weeks, I will see how it goes then and keep you posted.
Thanks...........Dwayne Flodell
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Good news, looks like Jilles is on top of mod touring after 2 rounds at the snowbirds race
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Good news, looks like Jilles is on top of mod touring after 2 rounds at the snowbirds race
Hey Bucko
where's my 416 set up?????? j/k
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Settle down Franko.......I haven't typed it out yet
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Originally Posted by JoeGlover View Post
Great to hear the set-up is working for you! Great job showing the Xray's the way around the track too

With guys using the HPI springs other than the silver what other spring is good to have. Are these better on asphalt or carpet. I've been using the Tamyia spring and really like them but would like to try a progressive spring out.
HPIs for asphalt, tamiyas for carpet

HPI silver and blue are all I've ever used on the 416, you might want to grab pink and maybe gold as well if you are running in super high grip
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Old 01-28-2010, 09:19 PM
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Originally Posted by JoeGlover View Post
With guys using the HPI springs other than the silver what other spring is good to have. Are these better on asphalt or carpet. I've been using the Tamyia spring and really like them but would like to try a progressive spring out.
As stated above, HPI for asphalt, Tamiya for carpet.

You should get the gold, silver and blue HPI ones.

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Old 01-28-2010, 09:35 PM
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Pink blue also work well
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Originally Posted by kentech View Post
Coming soon...

42168 Touring Car Short Type Spring Set (Black)
TRF sticker set

http://kentech.blogs.se/
Thanks for the heads up...any pics of the springs yet?
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meh, I've been using them with the tamiya retainers for a couple years now and only had the retainer disappear into the spring once

prob not a bad idea if you're shock ends need replacing tho
It's more for consistency, I've never had a retainer slip into the spring, but I have gotten really inconsistent results when trying to set the tweak on my car using the stock Tamiya retainers.
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meh, I've been using them with the tamiya retainers for a couple years now and only had the retainer disappear into the spring once

It's more for consistency, I've never had a retainer slip into the spring, but I have gotten really inconsistent results when trying to set the tweak on my car using the stock Tamiya retainers.
Gonzo Racing here makes retainers especially for the HPI springs...
http://www.gonzo-racing.ch/produkte.html


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They're too expensive .... I got 3 retainer set of HPI :-)
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Thanks for the feedback fellas
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