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Old 12-24-2009, 09:48 AM
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i use it ant it gives -3 in the left side and -1,5 on right

something is wrong with my car :P

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Old 12-24-2009, 09:53 AM
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Originally Posted by maxrcp View Post
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i use it ant it gives -3 in the left side and -1,5 on right

something is wrong with my car :P

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check your hingepin on the right side maybe it's bent hence giving the wrong toe angle on that side.

or check your rear upright, make sure you use 0deg...
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Why does tamiya recommend the 44mm steel drive shafts in their description for the 416x? Don't they come with 44mm already?
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Old 12-24-2009, 10:07 AM
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They have the correct "plunge" for the blocks that most people seem to run.

If you run the 42mm in the front with the c blocks, it will work, but you will have issues with the spool breaking becuase the plungs is not deep enough.

I have not tried the 46mm ones in the front, not sure if they will bottom out, and cause binding in the suspension...

If you run longer ones in the rear, you will hit the diff screw....



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Why does tamiya recommend the 44mm drive shafts?
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Old 12-24-2009, 10:08 AM
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Originally Posted by gashuffer View Post
Why does tamiya recommend the 44mm steel drive shafts in their description for the 416x? Don't they come with 44mm already?
46mm steel is what you want. I believe the car comes with 44mm alum.
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Originally Posted by maxrcp View Post
tks dodo

i use it ant it gives -3 in the left side and -1,5 on right

something is wrong with my car :P

tks for attention
Check your blocks too, if you've got a bent one, the toe will be out as well. Check em in all diretions (up/down and fore aft) by placing on a straight edge, and seeing if you can rock them/see daylight underneath.

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This is my second block that I bent and I didn't even hit that hard. I was wondering if I can use TA05 V2 Separate Susp. Mnts (1C/1XC) WRONG PIC BUT THIS TYPE OF BLOCK

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Originally Posted by entitymugenmtx View Post
This is my second block that I bent and I didn't even hit that hard. I was wondering if I can use TA05 V2 Separate Susp. Mnts (1C/1XC) WRONG PIC BUT THIS TYPE OF BLOCK

you can use the separate type blocks. check few pages back and you'll see pics of the 416X with it. 416 and 416WE can use the separate blocks too.
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Old 12-24-2009, 11:12 AM
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What about the shims or spacer that we use on the block
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Old 12-24-2009, 11:31 AM
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Originally Posted by entitymugenmtx View Post
What about the shims or spacer that we use on the block
i have the same question, seems that we have to simply use general spacers or the aluminium suspension arm spacers.

can anyone advise us on this
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Try longer screws in the 1pc blocks if you're having problems with them bending. Or use 2pc blocks where you can.

Anybody know if Tamiya has released slotted shims for the 2pc blocks yet?
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Old 12-24-2009, 12:17 PM
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Originally Posted by dodo View Post
i have the same question, seems that we have to simply use general spacers or the aluminium suspension arm spacers.

can anyone advise us on this
I use the stock shim on the inside screws and the equal thinkness washer on the outer screw. i.e. 0.5mm shim use a 0.5mm washer on outer screw, same thing for 1mm.

46mm steel on the front has no bind issues with the suspension.
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i just used the 1mm spacers for the suspension arms

little bit of AW grease one them and they stick enough to get the screw threw

used to use 1mm rear and 0.5mm on the front block

i used the steel blocks all round 46mm front and the 44mm rear

no binding problems at all
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Originally Posted by sidecarphil1 View Post

i used the steel blocks all round 46mm front and the 44mm rear

I think you have got into the Xmas shooters a little to early side car, lol.

I read that your liking your new ride over the 416, good luck with it.
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Old 12-24-2009, 07:45 PM
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Want to know what are the part numbers for the 416X universal set? thanks a lot
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