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Old 12-19-2009, 10:44 AM
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Originally Posted by B18C Turbo View Post
nice remote controlled car
Yes sir, a work of art. Bet it drives as good as it looks as well.
I have a 501x so I know what a TRF car looks like.
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Will Kimbrough 48 DP Spurs fit on this car?
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The tensioner was set low... After getting the electrics in the car.. and running it, it is set correctly...

The cars first few runs were pretty stout. I could put down some competitive laptimes, I just have to finish sorting the the thing out... Very glad I picked this one up.

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TimPotter: it looks like you have too much tension on the front belt. maybe it's just the camera angle...
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i have a 416x on the way. looking forward to building this thing, but i have no knowledge on Tamiya products. Where could i find set ups and tips?
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Go through the 503 pages of this thread!! Very good info, set-ups ect.

Ok after todays track day I am convinced this car is be sent here by the RC gods! I did some more small steps to the WE set-up and it was great on the track. Lots of corner speed everywhere but I find on power is where it makes it money. Very stable smooth arc. I don't know what else to say. I ate them up all day exiting a 180 into a sort of mini sweeper. No one could hold the line at that speed without pushing wide. And it didn't get upset when I got off the power to enter a chicane section.

I am very happy with the car and honestly don't know what else to change for our track to make it any better. 3 tenths faster than anything else all day long. TQ+win what else do you want.

Going to another track next weekend in Michigan with higher grip carpet so we'll see how it goes!
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Hi All,

I though I'd call on the knowledge of the collective on this one!

I recently acquired a 416WE and have been having some trouble with the front drive belt shaking quite a lot on power when the wheels are turned to the far righ and left. As a result the belt then clips everything in it's path and is getting a lot for wear/tear.

When wheels are straight theres no probs, and also when mostly turned, it's only on full lock i get the shake...

The kit is pretty stock apart from the turnbuckle which I have upgraded to titanium.

The funny thing is I only get the belt shake when the wheels are mounted, when taken off its not a prob.

I've tried the following on this one, however not getting any results...

- belt tension, tightened... takes some of the shake away, but doent want to make it too tight;
- inspected the belt drive - nothing in obstruction;
- replaced universal drive shaft, incase alloys were bent - no effect;

Please help!
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Other then this thread....

THard.co.uk is a great resource.

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i have a 416x on the way. looking forward to building this thing, but i have no knowledge on Tamiya products. Where could i find set ups and tips?
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Joe, good stuff.....were you running mod?? Is it possible to post your setup? I am running on a track with an 80" foot straight into a sweeper and I f I do not arc the entry to the sweeper just right the inside wheels pickup and I have to let off, the car feels really good everywhere else on the track in stock but with a 13.5 the car feels really loose on power. Any suggestions would be greatly apreciated.
Thanks.........Dwayne
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Front

5.2mm ride height
4.5mm on inner camber link
longest link
1d front block, 1D split blocks
3 hole
hole drilled in cap for rebound
Tamiya white spring
500 muchmore shock oil
2mm of rebound
nothing above bladder
middle hole on shock tower
outermost hole on arm
stock sway bar
.5 degree of tow out
1.5 degree camber
5mm acerman
1.5mm of spacer behind front arm(wheelbase)
.5mm bumpsteer
1.5mm of uptravel(droop)

Rear

5.4mm ride height
3.5mm on inner camberlink
3mm outer
longest link
1XA, 1D blocks(2.5 degrees of rear tow)
3 hole piston
450 muchmore oil
hole drilled in cap
Tamiya Blue spring
2mm of renound
nothing above bladder3rd hole down on shock tower
outermost hole on shorter set of holes on arm
stock sway bar(ball stud on outmost hole, slightly stiifer than inner)
3mm of spacer in front of rear arm
2 degrees of camber
2mm of uptravel(droop)
.5mm shims under blocks

General

Car weight is 1425g 28g's outside of battery pack locating in the middle of the battery. 56g on inside of battery again as centerd as possible. 7g plus MRT PTX transponder in front of battery. 7g in front of motor. Dual fans behind motor.

removed screw above steering rack for more flex

I found this car doesn't need as much weight outside the battery to achieve left to right balance like the WE did(due likely to motor position obviously) nor do you have to keep it to the back of the car. I put it all as central as possible for front to rear balance which is probably 55% front-45% rear.

Used a Mazda speed 6 LW. I'm going to try the regulr Mazda as I think it will feel even better. Gearing with a 13.5 was 105/38 with Tekin RS and Trinity Duo 2
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Thanks Joe, I really apreciate it I will let you know how it works.
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WANT!!! And no stupid air scoop!
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Originally Posted by Ravz View Post
Hi All,

I though I'd call on the knowledge of the collective on this one!

I recently acquired a 416WE and have been having some trouble with the front drive belt shaking quite a lot on power when the wheels are turned to the far righ and left. As a result the belt then clips everything in it's path and is getting a lot for wear/tear.

When wheels are straight theres no probs, and also when mostly turned, it's only on full lock i get the shake...

The kit is pretty stock apart from the turnbuckle which I have upgraded to titanium.

The funny thing is I only get the belt shake when the wheels are mounted, when taken off its not a prob.

I've tried the following on this one, however not getting any results...

- belt tension, tightened... takes some of the shake away, but doent want to make it too tight;
- inspected the belt drive - nothing in obstruction;
- replaced universal drive shaft, incase alloys were bent - no effect;

Please help!
Hi Ravz,

Nothing to worry about. This is quite normal when using a spool.
Just adjust your EPA on your transmitter as much as possible and the chattering will reduce as a result.

A 3-piece shaft (like X-ray has) will eliminate (almost) all the vibration.
I know somebody is making these for the 416, but I can't remember who...
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Originally Posted by syndr0me View Post
why no love for the air scoop?

that is a cool chassis, shame its for the "old" 416
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Originally Posted by CraigM View Post
why no love for the air scoop?

that is a cool chassis, shame its for the "old" 416
I don't use the scoop 'cause it's not nearly as effective as a 25x25mm fan, and the cutout leaves very little "meat" to mount the ESC to.

As for it being for the old 416, they could pretty easily drill it like the X's chassis so it's compatible with all the cars.
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