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Old 12-18-2009, 11:05 AM
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No those were things I moved over from the other cars.

That camera has always sucked at close ups. I used a mini tripod on the one pic
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Originally Posted by B18C Turbo
lol...well the first pic came out great, just need to steady your hands bro.
So did the kit include titanium steering tie-rods and the ESC ramp? Or did you add those?
U have to add those.
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Old 12-18-2009, 12:11 PM
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So I have a question for you guys about the Tamiya diffs in the 416.

I have found recently that my diffs feel pretty gritty. I am very well versed in the ways of diff builds and maintenance, but I have to say that the Tamiya diffs don't feel so great after a few runs.

What causes that gritty feeling in diffs?

I run 13.5 rubber tire inside on carpet. I use Schumacher diff grease and AE thrust grease. I am using Carbide diff balls but I have also tried ceramic as well. I sand rings with 600 grit sand paper. I break in my diff after a fresh build.

I just dont get it...when I rebuild them they feel like butter, but after only a run or two they get really bad. I know it sounds dumb, but is there a part that is usually associated with that gritty feeling in diffs.

My old Cyclone TC diffs have never felt like this after weeks of hard running. I just felt the diffs of some of my old cars that I sold to one of the locals and they still feel great.

Any ideas?
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Old 12-18-2009, 12:12 PM
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I'll try to do some shots as I build the car tonight...
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Originally Posted by artwork
So I have a question for you guys about the Tamiya diffs in the 416.

I have found recently that my diffs feel pretty gritty. I am very well versed in the ways of diff builds and maintenance, but I have to say that the Tamiya diffs don't feel so great after a few runs.

What causes that gritty feeling in diffs?

I run 13.5 rubber tire inside on carpet. I use Schumacher diff grease and AE thrust grease. I am using Carbide diff balls but I have also tried ceramic as well. I sand rings with 600 grit sand paper. I break in my diff after a fresh build.

I just dont get it...when I rebuild them they feel like butter, but after only a run or two they get really bad. I know it sounds dumb, but is there a part that is usually associated with that gritty feeling in diffs.

My old Cyclone TC diffs have never felt like this after weeks of hard running. I just felt the diffs of some of my old cars that I sold to one of the locals and they still feel great.

Any ideas?
Check your thrust bearing, you might have one going bad on you. You might also want to try some diff covers to keep dust and other gunk out of the diff ball/ring area.
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Old 12-18-2009, 12:36 PM
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Originally Posted by artwork
So I have a question for you guys about the Tamiya diffs in the 416.

I have found recently that my diffs feel pretty gritty. I am very well versed in the ways of diff builds and maintenance, but I have to say that the Tamiya diffs don't feel so great after a few runs.

What causes that gritty feeling in diffs?

I run 13.5 rubber tire inside on carpet. I use Schumacher diff grease and AE thrust grease. I am using Carbide diff balls but I have also tried ceramic as well. I sand rings with 600 grit sand paper. I break in my diff after a fresh build.

I just dont get it...when I rebuild them they feel like butter, but after only a run or two they get really bad. I know it sounds dumb, but is there a part that is usually associated with that gritty feeling in diffs.

My old Cyclone TC diffs have never felt like this after weeks of hard running. I just felt the diffs of some of my old cars that I sold to one of the locals and they still feel great.

Any ideas?
As James has said, its more than likely dirt getting into the diff...the balls do sit very close to the edge of the rings, so dirt can get in easy. Diff covers will certainly help.

I'm not running covers indoors at the moment, and seem to have to re-build more often than before... having said that, I can easy tend to go 3 meetings or more before I even feel llike it needs to be re-built....

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Old 12-18-2009, 01:04 PM
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Has anyone tested these RC devil lexan diff covers?
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Yep, they 're great. Just push fit on and no more gunk. Diffs last ages between rebuilds
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Originally Posted by JoeGlover
No but here are some part numbers for the different parts

left bulkhead(front)-13454690
right bulkhead(front)-13454691
motor mount bulkhead-134546787
center bulkhead-13454689
rear bulkhead(right)-13454693
" " (left)-13454692
rear belt-54207
upper deck-14004070
lower deck-14004071(not necessary if you use old front bulkheads)
layshaft bearing-42109

I don't think I'm forgetting anything
These parts are a direct fit on the original chassis?
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Old 12-18-2009, 02:31 PM
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Originally Posted by steve eaves
These parts are a direct fit on the original chassis?
TAMIYA Japan had Manual download !
these parts around end of this month arrive !
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Everything aside from the Front bulkheads are a direct fit on either the WE or original.
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Old 12-18-2009, 03:36 PM
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Originally Posted by artwork
So I have a question for you guys about the Tamiya diffs in the 416.

I have found recently that my diffs feel pretty gritty. I am very well versed in the ways of diff builds and maintenance, but I have to say that the Tamiya diffs don't feel so great after a few runs.

What causes that gritty feeling in diffs?

I run 13.5 rubber tire inside on carpet. I use Schumacher diff grease and AE thrust grease. I am using Carbide diff balls but I have also tried ceramic as well. I sand rings with 600 grit sand paper. I break in my diff after a fresh build.

I just dont get it...when I rebuild them they feel like butter, but after only a run or two they get really bad. I know it sounds dumb, but is there a part that is usually associated with that gritty feeling in diffs.

My old Cyclone TC diffs have never felt like this after weeks of hard running. I just felt the diffs of some of my old cars that I sold to one of the locals and they still feel great.

Any ideas?
I used the have the same problem before I started using diff covers/stickers on the 415. I have had my 416 for almost 2 yrs and have rebuilt the diff maybe 3 or 4 times. Try these.
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Old 12-18-2009, 06:04 PM
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Is there one particular place where you can find all the setup sheets for the 416 cars?

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Old 12-18-2009, 06:18 PM
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here has some 416 setups
http://www.thard.co.uk/
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Originally Posted by veecee
I used the have the same problem before I started using diff covers/stickers [/URL].
I wash my diff pulley, diff outdrives with soap and hard brush. I wash thrust bearing with brake cleaner. After this procedure diff working smooth. I use x-ray silicone grease for diff balls and AE black grease for thrust bearing. I make dust covers from oracal film.
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