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Old 08-30-2009, 10:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Johnny Wishbone View Post
Is that the inner pin that would go into the spool plunge, I can't see that being a major stumbling block. My question is, does this car really need the ecs?
That is the inner pin that would go in the spool, it won't be hard to file down the outdrives to fit it, I am just waiting to get a pair of them to find out if that's all that's needed. The car is great without them, I just want to see how it will feel with them as a tuning part.
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Old 08-30-2009, 10:16 PM
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Originally Posted by redbones View Post
Quick question. How much steering dual rate do you guys run with your cars? The car seems pretty squirrely at 100% and wanted to see what the ball park is for other racers. Thanks
For my cars I generally run about 80% (if 100% would mean the knuckle touching the c-hub at full lock) I do also dial more steering into the car when turning the dual rate down so that it can still get around the track quickly, just easier to drive.
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Old 08-30-2009, 10:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Randy Caster View Post
That is the inner pin that would go in the spool, it won't be hard to file down the outdrives to fit it, I am just waiting to get a pair of them to find out if that's all that's needed. The car is great without them, I just want to see how it will feel with them as a tuning part.
Randy - Im pretty sure that the Cyclone ball is much larger than the Tamiya equivalent, as well as the pin is wider.
I would imagine that you could just get the HB POM spool outdrives to mate it up with the spool. Everything seems quite universal in the last few years, but if the outdrives dont fit, i would say oyu could use the entire HB Spool.
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Old 08-30-2009, 10:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Randy Caster View Post
For my cars I generally run about 80% (if 100% would mean the knuckle touching the c-hub at full lock) I do also dial more steering into the car when turning the dual rate down so that it can still get around the track quickly, just easier to drive.
the alloy part of my steering tooches before the C hub touches the knuckle

and my steering on my DX3S is at 150% throw and 10% expo
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Old 08-31-2009, 09:24 AM
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I want to make a 416 into a foam tire car, but im having trouble
finding stiff springs that fit the spring retainer on this car?

what springs fit?
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Old 08-31-2009, 09:41 AM
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Originally Posted by B18C Turbo View Post
I want to make a 416 into a foam tire car, but im having trouble
finding stiff springs that fit the spring retainer on this car?

what springs fit?
I think AE will work.
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Old 08-31-2009, 10:28 AM
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i use HPI springs but they are a little too big for the lower spring retainer

never come off
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Old 08-31-2009, 12:21 PM
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Originally Posted by sidecarphil1 View Post
the alloy part of my steering tooches before the C hub touches the knuckle

and my steering on my DX3S is at 150% throw and 10% expo
The ball link on the drag bar of the steering in going to dictate how much total throw you can dial into the car, this may not necessarily mean that the steering hub will touch the c-hub at full lock as its just not physically possible.

I have my car set so when SR is 100% my servos has a l/r total throw of 132% left and 135% right. When I'm running I run the SR at 77% to as much as 83% nothing much over that. The expotential is what really helps to settle the car down, especially when running rubber tire on a tight track, in most cases I run anywhere from 10% to as much as 35%, all positive. Maybe you could explain the nervousness of the car more Redbones.

There are no shims for the 2pc blocks that I know of yet. I use a combonation of the original shims for the inner screw and the appropriate thickness washer for the outer screw.
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Originally Posted by B18C Turbo View Post
I want to make a 416 into a foam tire car, but im having trouble
finding stiff springs that fit the spring retainer on this car?

what springs fit?
I have run Xray springs, but I use their lower cups as well. Tamiya lists some very stiff springs under the 415 option parts, thing they are grey and purple in colour and work very well with foam.
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Old 08-31-2009, 02:07 PM
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Originally Posted by B18C Turbo View Post
I want to make a 416 into a foam tire car, but im having trouble
finding stiff springs that fit the spring retainer on this car?

what springs fit?
I m using Kyosho and Mugen springs, the one meant for their nitro 1/10 tc, its a perfect fit.
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Old 08-31-2009, 02:34 PM
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Originally Posted by syndr0me View Post
I think AE will work.
have you tested the AE springs for fitment?
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Old 08-31-2009, 02:39 PM
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Originally Posted by syndr0me View Post
Champ is saying the WE is out of stock and Tamiya has told them there won't be another run. I guess maybe we can expect a new kit sometime soon? It'll be interesting to see if the team is testing anything new at IIC.
Man that suck I just got my 416WE and now they are not running/making the 416 any more, even if they take 1year for another car what about parts support? any one know for sure if this is true?
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Originally Posted by Ramyuras View Post
Man that suck I just got my 416WE and now they are not running/making the 416 any more, even if they take 1year for another car what about parts support? any one know for sure if this is true?
It's probably true since the 416 has been on the market for almost 2 years. I wouldn't worry about parts support because there are many still running 415's without too many issues with parts.
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Originally Posted by veecee View Post
It's probably true since the 416 has been on the market for almost 2 years. I wouldn't worry about parts support because there are many still running 415's without too many issues with parts.
they wont end the 416 just yet although i do believe they will produce a reinhard or groskamp / european champion edition
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Originally Posted by B18C Turbo View Post
have you tested the AE springs for fitment?
I have, & I regularly use AE springs on mine(mainly when I need one that's different from the rates of the Tamiya springs). The fit seems absolutely the same to me....
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