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Old 08-10-2009, 07:51 PM
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Here's Corey's NEGS setup a few people asked about. He uses the soft IFS c-hubs, and drills a hole in the plastic part of the shock cap to vent them, which makes it very easy to get 0% rebound.

I usually start with this setup on high-bite, and then tune from there. My differences are:

60/40wt oil front/rear (Losi)
shims under inside links are +/- 1mm depending on conditions
.5mm anti-dive (shim under f/r block)
aluminum c-hubs
shocks aren't vented (about 5mm rebound)
5mm front hex (no spacer)
1E r/r block (3 deg toe)
WE chassis & top deck

We run Jaco blues. Sometimes I'll try less rear toe or straighter links in the rear if I want it to rotate more, but that seems to only be good for turning fast laps. It hurts consistency for me. The car seems pretty good like this, and it's basically the setup I plan to use at IIC when the grip starts to come up. Not sure if I'll detune the car early on, or just wait for the track to come to me. I'm not some spectacular pro or anything, but I've put in a lot of time with the car and arrived at this point after a lot of work. Your mileage may vary.
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Old 08-10-2009, 08:11 PM
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Syndromes car looked very good last weekend! He's being modest
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Old 08-10-2009, 10:41 PM
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Originally Posted by syndr0me View Post
Here's Corey's NEGS setup a few people asked about. He uses the soft IFS c-hubs, and drills a hole in the plastic part of the shock cap to vent them, which makes it very easy to get 0% rebound.

I usually start with this setup on high-bite, and then tune from there. My differences are:

60/40wt oil front/rear (Losi)
shims under inside links are +/- 1mm depending on conditions
.5mm anti-dive (shim under f/r block)
aluminum c-hubs
shocks aren't vented (about 5mm rebound)
5mm front hex (no spacer)
1E r/r block (3 deg toe)
WE chassis & top deck

We run Jaco blues. Sometimes I'll try less rear toe or straighter links in the rear if I want it to rotate more, but that seems to only be good for turning fast laps. It hurts consistency for me. The car seems pretty good like this, and it's basically the setup I plan to use at IIC when the grip starts to come up. Not sure if I'll detune the car early on, or just wait for the track to come to me. I'm not some spectacular pro or anything, but I've put in a lot of time with the car and arrived at this point after a lot of work. Your mileage may vary.
Set up sheets need to be fully filled out like track temp makes a difference with shock oil right? Thats outside right? Please remember I'm Dyslexic :P
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Old 08-10-2009, 11:00 PM
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Originally Posted by John St.Amant View Post
Set up sheets need to be fully filled out like track temp makes a difference with shock oil right? Thats outside right? Please remember I'm Dyslexic :P
Hehe, nah, I'm probably not the right guy to ask for setups. Nobody seems to like my cars, they're always too steery. I just figured I'd share since nobody seems to be running on the rug with this car.
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Guys, might be joining some friends for a mod fun run this weekend. Any suggestions for FDR with a 5.5 or 6.5 brushless and Lipos? I currently run a 10.5 with a FDR of 4.8. Thanks.
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Old 08-10-2009, 11:26 PM
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Originally Posted by syndr0me View Post
Hehe, nah, I'm probably not the right guy to ask for setups. Nobody seems to like my cars, they're always too steery. I just figured I'd share since nobody seems to be running on the rug with this car.
I will be running it on the carpet exclusively. And If everyone would state that on the set up sheet it would help a lot. Leave note like "twitchy but tight enough" ....Big help.
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Originally Posted by veecee View Post
Guys, might be joining some friends for a mod fun run this weekend. Any suggestions for FDR with a 5.5 or 6.5 brushless and Lipos? I currently run a 10.5 with a FDR of 4.8. Thanks.
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John, is that 48 pitch? Because that's what I use. Currently running 75/32 with a 10.5.
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Old 08-10-2009, 11:39 PM
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Originally Posted by veecee View Post
Guys, might be joining some friends for a mod fun run this weekend. Any suggestions for FDR with a 5.5 or 6.5 brushless and Lipos? I currently run a 10.5 with a FDR of 4.8. Thanks.
I'm running Orion & LRP X12 6.5t at 7.2 (big track).... hope this helps.
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Brilliant. Thanks guys!
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Old 08-11-2009, 04:09 AM
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Originally Posted by sidecarphil1 View Post
hey Ed

have you got a good set up for a 416WE indoors on carpet / rubber tyres ??

either using 13.5 lipo or 23 turn brushed

havnt decided on class yet
Look on Ed's site at David Bowen's Carpet Wars starting point. That's where I started from a few weeks back, just started testing ready for carpet season. Will be doing some more testing tonight and I'll put my setup up later in the week if you want.... (I'm running 13.5)

I'm running on various tires at the moment, since this winter I'll be doing series using both Sorex 28's and Much More/Sweep 32's (although we may be having a new wheel/insert combo on the Much More's than the currently available ones).
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Originally Posted by Bigger Brother View Post
Look on Ed's site at David Bowen's Carpet Wars starting point. That's where I started from a few weeks back, just started testing ready for carpet season. Will be doing some more testing tonight and I'll put my setup up later in the week if you want.... (I'm running 13.5)

I'm running on various tires at the moment, since this winter I'll be doing series using both Sorex 28's and Much More/Sweep 32's (although we may be having a new wheel/insert combo on the Much More's than the currently available ones).
cool i will try it thank you and if you dont mind posting up your set up it would be cool

i tried the MM sweeps at ets at i thought they were poop after the first run , i think the sorex 32's or 28's are best but it is personal choice only
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Originally Posted by sidecarphil1 View Post
cool i will try it thank you and if you dont mind posting up your set up it would be cool

i tried the MM sweeps at ets at i thought they were poop after the first run , i think the sorex 32's or 28's are best but it is personal choice only
I like the feel of Sorex 32's on carpet, it was what I used at times last winter when the tire choice was free. I've also tried some LRP Vtec 30's which must be about 30-40 runs old and seem to stay very consistent. Not as quick as the Sorex's though.

Tires for me are determined by the series I'm running in: Eversley and Rug Racers series are using the Much More Sweep - but like I say we are hoping to try out a slightly different wheel and insert combo - I should get some within the next few weeks to test with. I've hardly done any running on any Much More tires so can't comment yet. The Carpet Wars series uses Sorex 28s, which I think are slightly faster than 32's, but really good for about 5-10 runs.

I'll try to get a setup sheet on here or on Ed's site sometime tomorrow!
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Originally Posted by veecee View Post
John, is that 48 pitch? Because that's what I use. Currently running 75/32 with a 10.5.
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It would also be nice if it was stated somewhere if your running 5 cell, 6 cell or Lipo. And what the placement of the cells are, if used.

Same for stating if your running the 416 or the WE chassiss.

I'm also only running on carpet/rubber tire, but haven't got a killer setup worth sharing, although its very similar to syndromes.
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