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Old 08-04-2009, 01:37 PM
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Originally Posted by sonic31 View Post
chatty, if you're only looking for a tourer to do gt with then spend less $ a 416we is awesome but i think can be overkill for that class, myself, we have a gt class and its pretty cool but i would'nt go further than a tb03 or ta05.
i heard some good things about the tb03 so i'd consider that... inexpensive and easy to upgrade!!!
No doubt, but did I mention the diseased part of my wee wittle bwain? I'm gunna build a TB03 for GT3 next year, but figured I'd learn how to tune the LW suspension on a car with less "wrong" with it (less need for upgrades) out of the box...I figure if I learn on a 416 I'll know the target I am shooting for with the '03, and still have a 416 around if I ever get good enough for GT1 someday, not to mention local clubbing. A TB03 +$150 in upgrades is still no where near what a 416 is for $375, but I suppose the WE would be overkill as so little is changed. But if Tamiya makes it, and it is more expensive that the standard part, isn't it by definition "better"? Isn't that the Tamiya way? lol



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Old 08-04-2009, 04:45 PM
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chatty, yea i hear ya, i always go for the best if i can afford it. keep in mind that the tb03 will probably handle slightly different from the 416... shaft vs. belt and flex would differ as well. i said shaft
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Old 08-04-2009, 06:00 PM
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Originally Posted by sonic31 View Post
chatty, yea i hear ya, i always go for the best if i can afford it. keep in mind that the tb03 will probably handle slightly different from the 416... shaft vs. belt and flex would differ as well. i said shaft
True, but there's still an alternative for those who like the feel of the 416, the new TA05ver.2. I recently got mine up & running, & I have to say, I'm VERY impressed with it, feels a LOT like my 416WE, I think it'll be a great second car & choice for spec classes like VTA, & Tamiya's GT3 & GT2(& it could probably hold its own in GT1, too).....
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Old 08-04-2009, 06:12 PM
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A wider weight distribution will always slow down the polar moment.
That's probably true, but I would be surprised if anyone could actually tell the difference between a properly balanced car with or without a lipo tray
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Old 08-04-2009, 07:04 PM
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Old 08-04-2009, 07:19 PM
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Offsetting Lipos

The minimum weight you run to needs to be considered. Eg if you don't have a minimum weight rule and u want to run as light as possible, then it is actually better to run your pack wider out. Otherwise your car won't be balanced left to right.

Since moving to a different state and being able to run 75g lighter, I've found that my 416 is slightly unbalanced if I want to run minimum weight. In this situation it would be more beneficial if I was able to either offset the Lipo or lead further from the center of the chassis. Or I can add more weight but then I am carrying more weight than neccessary.
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Old 08-04-2009, 09:02 PM
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Originally Posted by veecee View Post
Offsetting Lipos

The minimum weight you run to needs to be considered. Eg if you don't have a minimum weight rule and u want to run as light as possible, then it is actually better to run your pack wider out. Otherwise your car won't be balanced left to right.

Since moving to a different state and being able to run 75g lighter, I've found that my 416 is slightly unbalanced if I want to run minimum weight. In this situation it would be more beneficial if I was able to either offset the Lipo or lead further from the center of the chassis. Or I can add more weight but then I am carrying more weight than neccessary.
Ever consider a lighter servo? or speedo? Or maybe Titanium and Aluminum screw set ? That alone is an ounce I guarantee it . My car is not balanced as well as it could be but rotates nicely. all the fast guys that used to hang a pack off to the side are not doing so any more... I'd have to ask them why.
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Originally Posted by John St.Amant View Post
fast guys that used to hang a pack off to the side are not doing so any more... I'd have to ask them why.
they race with you right?
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they race with you right?
Really funny Craig. If you weren't 14,000 miles away I would come and show you what we are made of here. I run with some pretty wicked competition here.
Some names you may have heard of .. like Josh Cyrul and Dave Johnson just to name a few. Careful what you say on here buddy. It just may come back to bite you . I'm either the slowest of the fast guys or the fastest of the slow guys. Once I get all the latest and greatest they may have some serious competition on their hands.
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Originally Posted by John St.Amant View Post
Ever consider a lighter servo? or speedo? Or maybe Titanium and Aluminum screw set ? That alone is an ounce I guarantee it . My car is not balanced as well as it could be but rotates nicely. all the fast guys that used to hang a pack off to the side are not doing so any more... I'd have to ask them why.
Sure let's throw $$$ at it and run different screws side to side while we're so it...

Anyway u missed the whole point but that's not unexpected...
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i'll kick all your butts with my traxxas 4-tec and 20turn stinger motor
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yea man that ta05 ver.2 looks very nice, that is my first choice for a second car. i don't need another 416 to run gt class, and i like that inboard shock thing its pretty slick.
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Sure let's throw $$$ at it and run different screws side to side while we're so it...

Anyway u missed the whole point but that's not unexpected...
Oh go race oval....poser.
Seems to me you missed the point.
You've got a thousand bucks in that car and you are going to stop there?
Idiot...
You are going to throw X-Ray 45 bucks for brass but wont buy a lightening screw set ? for 45?
That doesn't add up man.
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I have no idea what's going on.
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I think he missed the ""... it was a joke, don't take yourself so seriously
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