4LikesTamiya TRF416 / TRF416WE / TRF416X
06-23-2009, 03:20 PM
#5777
Shorter links also make the chassis respond quick. Sometimes too quick. So you have to be careful.
06-23-2009, 05:23 PM
#5778
Goingfast: personally I would ignore the front holes on the hubs. These will give you crazy steering but wont free the rear up. Why don't you post your setup and we can go from there. Also is this carpet or asphalt? Without knowing your current setup or the surface, I would suggest trying less rear toe, a higher rear RC, and a shorter rear wheelbase. It could also be your shock oil, springs, hole on the tower, etc etc
The rear end of the TOP feels very stuck with the box setup too 
06-23-2009, 06:18 PM
#5780
Goingfast: personally I would ignore the front holes on the hubs. These will give you crazy steering but wont free the rear up. Why don't you post your setup and we can go from there. Also is this carpet or asphalt? Without knowing your current setup or the surface, I would suggest trying less rear toe, a higher rear RC, and a shorter rear wheelbase. It could also be your shock oil, springs, hole on the tower, etc etc
The rear end of the TOP feels very stuck with the box setup too
The rear end of the TOP feels very stuck with the box setup too
I think I might know what's my problem....I soaked the Jack Ripper for 20min. and I noticed the steering when away after 4.00 minutes mark so I believe the front tire traction wear off and it started to push....I going to try the black paragon can next time ..... Thanks for you input
06-23-2009, 07:47 PM
#5781
Give the box setup a shot first, you might want some HPI silver springs for the front, and blue for the rear, and build it without the .5 spacers under the rear blocks. That should give you a pretty good starting point for a low grip track.
06-28-2009, 09:33 PM
#5784
Hello 416 owners,
I'm in the process of doing a thorough rebuild to my race ride, complete with a new WE chassis and suspension parts. When trying to mount my top-deck, it has to be finagled inside in a manner that is not so free. It's so tight that it affects the tweak of the car. The bulkhead pieces aren't new, but I didnt notice any bends when I inspected them. The top bulkhead pieces also seemed to sit flush when I installed them.
I'm thinking of sanding a litle material off the end of the top-deck, but that's a last resort.
Anyone have an experience like this or have any idea why this might occur? Before I tore the car apart, i'm pretty definite that I wasn't having this problem.
-M
I'm in the process of doing a thorough rebuild to my race ride, complete with a new WE chassis and suspension parts. When trying to mount my top-deck, it has to be finagled inside in a manner that is not so free. It's so tight that it affects the tweak of the car. The bulkhead pieces aren't new, but I didnt notice any bends when I inspected them. The top bulkhead pieces also seemed to sit flush when I installed them.
I'm thinking of sanding a litle material off the end of the top-deck, but that's a last resort.
Anyone have an experience like this or have any idea why this might occur? Before I tore the car apart, i'm pretty definite that I wasn't having this problem.
-M
Last edited by StickyFingaz; 06-28-2009 at 11:29 PM.
06-28-2009, 09:46 PM
#5785
Hello 416 owners,
I'm in the process of doing a thorough rebuild to my race ride, complete with a new WE chassis and suspension parts. When trying to mount my top-deck, it has to be finagled inside in a manner that is not so free. It's so tight that it affects the twek of the car. The bulkhead pieces aren't new, but I didnt notice any bends when I inspected them. The top bulkhead pieces also seemed to sit flush when I installed them.
I'm thinking of sanding a litle material off the end of the top-deck, but that's a last resort.
Anyone have an experience like this or have any idea why this might occur? Before I tore the car apart, i'm pretty definite that I wasn't having this problem.
-M
I'm in the process of doing a thorough rebuild to my race ride, complete with a new WE chassis and suspension parts. When trying to mount my top-deck, it has to be finagled inside in a manner that is not so free. It's so tight that it affects the twek of the car. The bulkhead pieces aren't new, but I didnt notice any bends when I inspected them. The top bulkhead pieces also seemed to sit flush when I installed them.
I'm thinking of sanding a litle material off the end of the top-deck, but that's a last resort.
Anyone have an experience like this or have any idea why this might occur? Before I tore the car apart, i'm pretty definite that I wasn't having this problem.
-M
06-28-2009, 09:51 PM
#5786
Hello 416 owners,
I'm in the process of doing a thorough rebuild to my race ride, complete with a new WE chassis and suspension parts. When trying to mount my top-deck, it has to be finagled inside in a manner that is not so free. It's so tight that it affects the twek of the car. The bulkhead pieces aren't new, but I didnt notice any bends when I inspected them. The top bulkhead pieces also seemed to sit flush when I installed them.
I'm thinking of sanding a litle material off the end of the top-deck, but that's a last resort.
Anyone have an experience like this or have any idea why this might occur? Before I tore the car apart, i'm pretty definite that I wasn't having this problem.
-M
I'm in the process of doing a thorough rebuild to my race ride, complete with a new WE chassis and suspension parts. When trying to mount my top-deck, it has to be finagled inside in a manner that is not so free. It's so tight that it affects the twek of the car. The bulkhead pieces aren't new, but I didnt notice any bends when I inspected them. The top bulkhead pieces also seemed to sit flush when I installed them.
I'm thinking of sanding a litle material off the end of the top-deck, but that's a last resort.
Anyone have an experience like this or have any idea why this might occur? Before I tore the car apart, i'm pretty definite that I wasn't having this problem.
-M
I generally push straight down on both shock towers and then tighten down the top deck. This seems to do a good job of de-tweaking the chassis.
06-28-2009, 11:32 PM
#5787
I always sanded mine from the beginning. You can take off very little, it won't affect anything, and will ensure there's no binding, preventing proper flex.
I generally push straight down on both shock towers and then tighten down the top deck. This seems to do a good job of de-tweaking the chassis.
I generally push straight down on both shock towers and then tighten down the top deck. This seems to do a good job of de-tweaking the chassis.
I've been staring at the car for awhile now and am running out of ideas. Looks like i'll be sanding just a hair off of both ends...
06-29-2009, 03:14 AM
#5788
Hello 416 owners,
I'm in the process of doing a thorough rebuild to my race ride, complete with a new WE chassis and suspension parts. When trying to mount my top-deck, it has to be finagled inside in a manner that is not so free. It's so tight that it affects the tweak of the car. The bulkhead pieces aren't new, but I didnt notice any bends when I inspected them. The top bulkhead pieces also seemed to sit flush when I installed them.
I'm thinking of sanding a litle material off the end of the top-deck, but that's a last resort.
Anyone have an experience like this or have any idea why this might occur? Before I tore the car apart, i'm pretty definite that I wasn't having this problem.
-M
I'm in the process of doing a thorough rebuild to my race ride, complete with a new WE chassis and suspension parts. When trying to mount my top-deck, it has to be finagled inside in a manner that is not so free. It's so tight that it affects the tweak of the car. The bulkhead pieces aren't new, but I didnt notice any bends when I inspected them. The top bulkhead pieces also seemed to sit flush when I installed them.
I'm thinking of sanding a litle material off the end of the top-deck, but that's a last resort.
Anyone have an experience like this or have any idea why this might occur? Before I tore the car apart, i'm pretty definite that I wasn't having this problem.
-M
06-29-2009, 06:05 AM
#5789
Hello 416 owners,
I'm in the process of doing a thorough rebuild to my race ride, complete with a new WE chassis and suspension parts. When trying to mount my top-deck, it has to be finagled inside in a manner that is not so free. It's so tight that it affects the tweak of the car. The bulkhead pieces aren't new, but I didnt notice any bends when I inspected them. The top bulkhead pieces also seemed to sit flush when I installed them.
I'm thinking of sanding a litle material off the end of the top-deck, but that's a last resort.
Anyone have an experience like this or have any idea why this might occur? Before I tore the car apart, i'm pretty definite that I wasn't having this problem.
-M
I'm in the process of doing a thorough rebuild to my race ride, complete with a new WE chassis and suspension parts. When trying to mount my top-deck, it has to be finagled inside in a manner that is not so free. It's so tight that it affects the tweak of the car. The bulkhead pieces aren't new, but I didnt notice any bends when I inspected them. The top bulkhead pieces also seemed to sit flush when I installed them.
I'm thinking of sanding a litle material off the end of the top-deck, but that's a last resort.
Anyone have an experience like this or have any idea why this might occur? Before I tore the car apart, i'm pretty definite that I wasn't having this problem.
-M
06-29-2009, 06:27 AM
#5790
It seems to me that maybe my car didn't have that problem when it was new, but developed it over time. My bulkheads all appear to be straight when I lay them on a flat surface, so maybe it's something with the chassis developing a curve over time? It always seems to tweak out fine once I tighten down the top deck with the car compressed at the shock towers. It's a shame nobody makes those chassis flattening plates for this car.
