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Old 05-15-2009, 02:59 AM
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I know that LCD's are said to have more steering than a normal universal or CVD, but it doesn't really work like that. Because they smooth out the joint so much, it actually tends to smooth out the response feeling and take a bit of initial steering away. I admit that I would like to give them a shot to see how they feel on the 416, but I'm sure I already know the answer.

What is the part # for the softer IFS C-Hubs?
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Old 05-15-2009, 06:09 AM
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What is the part # for the softer IFS C-Hubs?
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Old 05-15-2009, 10:24 AM
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Thanks, gonna order a couple of those since I might need some extra steering on the rug now.
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Old 05-15-2009, 10:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Randy Caster View Post
To elaborate on that, you need to drill about a 1mm hole in the plastic shock cap. This will reduce the rebound to just a couple mm.
Hi Randy, want to ask a bit more about making shocks w/ less rebound. Should I keep the rebound foam or not? When I close the top cap, do I need to push up the shaft till whatever mm I want to have? I mean if I want only 2mm, is that means just push up the shaft till only 2mm left then close the top cap w/ hole on? Hole size only 1mm no more no less? Thanks!
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From what I've been doing, right around 1mm seems to work fine, it doesn't have to be exact, but close would be good.

Start off without the foam, you can use it if you want to get more rebound in the shock though (or o-rings for something thinner that will produce less rebound)

I build the shocks with the shaft all of the way pulled out, and once assembled I see how much rebound they have. If they have too much, I take a 2.5mm hex driver and push down on one side of the bladder lightly so that oil will bleed from the other side of the bladder. You can control how much oil will escape this way and can match pairs of shocks fairly easy this way as well. Building the shock with the shaft pushed in is fine as well, I just have never really built them like that personally (but I'm an asphalt guy, so I normally want full rebound out of the shock)
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Old 05-15-2009, 12:46 PM
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Thanks, gonna order a couple of those since I might need some extra steering on the rug now.
Corey's carpet setup seems like a good place to start.

It's great you guys are getting a carpet track out there finally. We keep stealing racers from California and Florida and have to train them on the rug.
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Old 05-15-2009, 02:19 PM
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The carpet track is going to be awesome, but we are also getting a new indoor asphalt track that is set to open the first week of July now. The carpet track is 73x73 and the asphalt track will be 135x50. Should be awesome!
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Old 05-15-2009, 02:31 PM
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The LCD's should let the car carry more corner speed and not bind it up in the corner. In mod it might not be as big of a difference as in the slower classes.
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http://www.geocities.jp/hobby_show_a...a2009/0276.htm

New shock towers? I didn't spot much else. You guys see any other 416 stuff?

http://www.geocities.jp/hobby_show_a...2009/index.htm
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The LCD's should let the car carry more corner speed and not bind it up in the corner. In mod it might not be as big of a difference as in the slower classes.
I guess for anyone wanting to try to fit them to the Tamiya car, the closest set would be from XRay. I contacted Jeff at Speedtech to ask about the set he has for the HB car and he said they wouldn't fit. XRay would at least be metric and looks like their design is a little better than the original Losi design as well..
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I believe the X-Ray ones are too long as they are listed at 50mm and 52mm. I will try and measure a set of this weekend.
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I just didn't know if they measure them differently than Tamiya does, but I thought they would be too long as well. The other issue is if they will fit into our spool outdrives without modification.
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They measure them differently, with Xray's measure being about 5mm longer than Tam's.
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Sounds like a 50mm would be nearly perfect. I wonder how much spacing they have between the bearings and how their wheel hex mounts on the axle...
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Old 05-16-2009, 09:51 AM
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Hey guys, im from Brazil and jut got the new trf 416 worlds! Here in Brazil nobody races with this car, so i need some helps!
Here we run with X11 9.5T motors, with lipos or/and 6 cell nimh batts!
I would like to know which hop up parts i need to buy?
which parts broken a lot or need to be replaced more often?
we race at outdoors asphalt medium grip tracks.

tks a lot
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