Originally Posted by TryHard

John,
You really should read and understand the posts better...Tony nowhere actually said that running -20 camber would actually be feasable, we could't actually achieve such a setting on the car for starters! What he's doing is very simplying using engineering principles to demonstrate the point, by taking an extreme example and showing what would happen with that. Being an engineer myself, it's very easy to spot that.

Your really trying to discuss three things;
Roll centre
Static camber
Camber gain

Now static roll centre position does have an influence on camber gain, as the link posiitions are used to calculate it. Changing your camber gain settings WILL alter your roll centre position. There are no two ways about it, as they both rely on the link angles. Static camber will not however influence roll centre, so the two can be considered mutually exclusive.
Now I mentioned before, the calculator is a guide, nothing more. Its there to give a comparison on settings, mainly as it only calculates the STATIC position only. There's no way I have the time to make one up to calculate the dynamic roll centre.

Your doing the same thing you did before with the flex topic... Trying to compare the real world with the small world, and completely forgetting about scale effects. You mention about audi's and subaru's in a previous post, but I very much doubt any of them would be able to top out at over 300mph, let alone corner at that speed.... Something else to bear in mind is that link positions are a lot easier to change on our cars, as we don't have to redisgning mounting points etc.
Instead of bagging the change as pointless, think of it as another weapon in the arsenal. I guarantee you'll feel a huge difference to the car.

Ed

Originally Posted by JayL

It's real simple to have a final answer:

run on a track with timing

add your camber whatever
time

take out camber whatever
time


who wins: the fastest time


not hard

Originally Posted by John St.Amant

Yeah I know .... I have a 416WE and a 415MSXX and did a comparison. Guess what ... there was NO DIFFERENCE! But no one wants to listen to me ... I was right on that instance too. THEY WERE BOTH THE SAME! I almost broke a car proving it to myself and kept the results to myself cause every one would just argue with me. One piece or two was the only difference....

As for scale speed , that is for entertainment purposes only.
Real world situations work perfectly in scale or F1 teams wouldn't do mock ups in wind tunnels in 5/8th scale. Want to argue about it again?

Originally Posted by TryHard

The reason for a mock up at 5/8ths scale is you wouldn't actually be able to get a wind tunnel to run at full speed on a 1:1 scale... the thing would rip itself apart. They still have to take into account scaling effects.. hence why a number of teams have issues with wind tunnel calibration, where by gains made in the tunnel weren't being replicated in full scale.

For the flex, lets just agree to disagree...

Moving on!

Originally Posted by RC MARKET

SMC
40C 4700mah LiPo Marc R Edition

Originally Posted by John St.Amant

There is an LPR 5300 40c pack that has a translucent case and can be flipped over as well. Funny tho. after many hot debates on deans plugs and barrel connectors .... perhaps Danny has given in and done what I've been suggesting all along.

Originally Posted by Hebiki

Chris... TA05 milky white or all black sway bars work fine.

Speedtech has it in stock...
Milky white version:
http://www.speedtechrc.com/store/ebp...id=461&id=7556

Black version:
http://www.speedtechrc.com/store/ebp...id=459&id=5842 (not in stock though)

- Chris

Originally Posted by JayL

um no, he went EFRA spec, barrel connectors

Originally Posted by CraigM

Has anyone got a good foam/carpet base setup? There's a big indoor meet coming up & I've never run foam on the rug