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Old 04-26-2009, 04:53 PM
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Good luck Craig. You've been having a great run lately. Bring the 416 a State title!
I wish! Qualified and finished 5th. Still happy with it though, the field was class and I only missed 4th by 1 point. Anyway here is my setup. I used Jilles' base asphalt setup and made changes from there to suit the track. I picked up 3 tenths by laying the rear shocks down 1 hole!!
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Old 04-26-2009, 06:55 PM
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Default TRF 416 run in PTS ciruit

The PTS opened newly in last week.

It copied RCS(Taiwan, TITC, IFMAR) Circuit.

TRF 416 VS BD5 Battle Movie!!

http://3hobby.net/multimedia/videos/watch/19/trf-416-run-in-pts.html
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Old 04-26-2009, 09:59 PM
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Wow
I'm really shock about this 416WE ...I brought used 416WE and yes it needs rebuild and But it didn't take long for me to GIT R Done lol....I ran this 416 today for the first time and man I Qualified first and won the main. Some how this 416we works better and easy to drive compare my Xray 008....
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There was a question on how the car reacts to overdrive a week or so ago on here, so I tested it out at the track this weekend to get an answer.

I was on a fairly tight track with a couple high speed areas, but unfortunately the grip was pretty low so it was hard to take advantage of them.

I did a run with the normal pulley, then went straight to overdrive. The car was much twitchier, more aggressive, and really just hard to drive with it. Rather than scrapping it, I kept making changes to the car to make it driveable. I had the car pretty dialed today, but unfortunately the wind picked up and blew dust all over the track, so it was really hard to figure out consistent results.

One thing I felt was that in the tight corners it would have a tendency to make the car feel "bound" up exiting the corner, it wasn't too much of a problem with a mod motor, but I was talking it over with Mark Dawson, and he said with a 13.5 it really made the car hard to drive and he took it out.

I'm tired as heck right now, and probably aren't making too much sense, so I'll post some more after I get rested and list some of the changes I made to make it driveable.
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Old 04-27-2009, 06:35 AM
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Wow
I'm really shock about this 416WE ...I brought used 416WE and yes it needs rebuild and But it didn't take long for me to GIT R Done lol....I ran this 416 today for the first time and man I Qualified first and won the main. Some how this 416we works better and easy to drive compare my Xray 008....
Good for you bro...
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Old 04-27-2009, 07:26 AM
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Originally Posted by CraigM View Post
I wish! Qualified and finished 5th. Still happy with it though, the field was class and I only missed 4th by 1 point. Anyway here is my setup. I used Jilles' base asphalt setup and made changes from there to suit the track. I picked up 3 tenths by laying the rear shocks down 1 hole!!
Well done anyway mate, it was a competitive field. And it looks like you were right on the pace. What did you feel was different about the LTC-R versus the Speed 6?
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Old 04-27-2009, 07:30 AM
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Originally Posted by gansei View Post
The PTS opened newly in last week.

It copied RCS(Taiwan, TITC, IFMAR) Circuit.

TRF 416 VS BD5 Battle Movie!!

http://3hobby.net/multimedia/videos/watch/19/trf-416-run-in-pts.html
copy RCS track !
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Old 04-27-2009, 09:33 AM
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Does anyone know if there is a thicker bottom deck in development? Just maybe? The 2.5mm deck is thicker yes, but paying $60+ for 0.25mm just sounds wrong to me I have a 3mm deck on my 415 and it handles foam realllly well, so if I can get the same deck for my 416 it will be great
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Originally Posted by Ricky/C View Post
Does anyone know if there is a thicker bottom deck in development? Just maybe? The 2.5mm deck is thicker yes, but paying $60+ for 0.25mm just sounds wrong to me I have a 3mm deck on my 415 and it handles foam realllly well, so if I can get the same deck for my 416 it will be great
this week had tamiya shipment, but not have lower deck again !
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Old 04-27-2009, 10:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Ricky/C View Post
Does anyone know if there is a thicker bottom deck in development? Just maybe? The 2.5mm deck is thicker yes, but paying $60+ for 0.25mm just sounds wrong to me I have a 3mm deck on my 415 and it handles foam realllly well, so if I can get the same deck for my 416 it will be great
Bud, I think you'd be better off buying a 3mm or 3.5mm carbon blank and get someone to cut you a bottom deck, I don't see Tamiya doing a thicker bottom deck for the car other than what they already offer.
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Old 04-27-2009, 01:16 PM
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I just had another look at the 416 and 416WE manuals. The bottom decks look about the same?! Will the 2.5mm deck work on the WE? I cant see why not! Damn this is driving me nuts
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I'd be willing to bet that most of you wouldn't notice any advantage to running a thicker chassis.
Key factors are Tires... Shocks... then basic set-up.
Thickness of the chassis is reflective of stiffness but not so much as the chassis construction itself. Built what you've got and tune it to the track. I'm sure you will be more than happy with what ever car you get .... yes even an X-Ray... that is if you can afford to break it.
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Old 04-27-2009, 01:26 PM
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It will work...

As far as I know the only difference in the decks between the 2 versions is the thickness and the battery position which moved forward on the W.E. The screw holes in the decks all match between the 2 versions.
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Thanks John and Skitee I guess I wont know if there is a differnce unless I try it? So I might just aswell
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Originally Posted by Ricky/C View Post
Thanks John and Skitee I guess I wont know if there is a differnce unless I try it? So I might just aswell
Hey Ricky,

The original 416 was avaliable in two guises, the 2.25 and optional 2.5mm versions. These had the cells slightly further back in the car.
The WE deck is only avaliable in the 2.25mm version, with the cells ~5mm forward.

All the bulkhead fittings etc were the same between cars, so all the decks are interchangable between them

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