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Old 01-04-2009, 06:02 PM
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I've been wanting to try the XRay springs. Has anyone run them back to back with HPI or Tamiya springs to see how they feel?

I don't look at the spring weight ratings too much between brands because I've found that most of the brands just have a different feel. You could have a 14lb spring with 5 coils and 1.3mm wire, and a 14lb spring with 6 coils and 1.6mm wire, both the same length and weight rating but will feel completely different.
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Old 01-04-2009, 07:34 PM
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Does anyone have a part number for the Spool outdrives for the 416 ? I pulled the one out of the Manual for the 416we, but Tamiya USA does not list them in the system...

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Old 01-04-2009, 07:43 PM
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I've done a ton of searching on the site for the same thing. If nobody answers I'll e-mail Tamiya tomorrow and see if they have them and get you a part # Tim.
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Old 01-04-2009, 08:17 PM
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RC Market has it listed as 9804388, but it doesn't appear to be on TamiyaUSA's site.

http://rcmarket.com.hk/product_info....oducts_id=4932

I ordered 8 sets from RC Market, and they're definitely the right part.
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Old 01-04-2009, 08:26 PM
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i'm sure you guys know about the universal spring chart..
http://www.thard.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=33

this one has been very useful to me..
its a good guide and i'm prepared to take them on face value
but i do agree that the same colour spring could measure differently due to manufacturer tolerances
(it could come down to the thickness on the paint!)

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Old 01-04-2009, 08:41 PM
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That is the part number in the WE manual... BTW, if anyone is looking to part with a 2.25 chassis.... ping me...
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Old 01-04-2009, 09:49 PM
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I wonder if Tamiya changed its source of carbon fiber? The CF the new top deck is made out of is distinctly different than the old one, or the old chassis. It's got a different surface finish (more dull, it seems) and the actual CF pattern is different.
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Old 01-04-2009, 11:50 PM
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Hi tryhard...do you run slightly heavier up front to get a quicker response in steering? Any other advantages to run heavier oil upfront?


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I tend to run slightly heavier in the front, mainly as I'm normally running a slightly stiffer spring up front as well. Usually only 5wt heavier though, don't think I've used more than 550wt anywhere.
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Old 01-05-2009, 04:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Randy Caster View Post
I've been wanting to try the XRay springs. Has anyone run them back to back with HPI or Tamiya springs to see how they feel?
I've been using XRay springs for years now and they feel really good plus offer a wide range. The XRay springs run and feel much harder than their rating. It's a good set though if you plan to run carpet and asphalt. If I'm in the spring rate range for the Tamiya springs, then I use them over the XRays...they feel a little smoother. I never tried HPI springs.
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Old 01-05-2009, 06:13 AM
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Originally Posted by 3.141592 View Post
Hi tryhard...do you run slightly heavier up front to get a quicker response in steering? Any other advantages to run heavier oil upfront?
I think you will find that it smooths the responce out, as we are on rubber tyres.... bit less weight transfer etc...

I am sure Ed will prove me wrong
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Originally Posted by Adam? View Post
RC Market has it listed as 9804388, but it doesn't appear to be on TamiyaUSA's site.

http://rcmarket.com.hk/product_info....oducts_id=4932

I ordered 8 sets from RC Market, and they're definitely the right part.

Yes last some set ,
next lot need Mid Of Jan arrive !
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Originally Posted by TimPotter View Post
That is the part number in the WE manual... BTW, if anyone is looking to part with a 2.25 chassis.... ping me...
was released sold out now !
mid of Jan la !
http://rcmarket.com.hk/product_info....oducts_id=5130
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Originally Posted by Adam? View Post
I wonder if Tamiya changed its source of carbon fiber? The CF the new top deck is made out of is distinctly different than the old one, or the old chassis. It's got a different surface finish (more dull, it seems) and the actual CF pattern is different.
the lower deck of my WE has irregular CF weave around the servo area and i was very dissapointed by it

wonder it has to do with a new CF supplier...
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Originally Posted by Adam? View Post
I wonder if Tamiya changed its source of carbon fiber? The CF the new top deck is made out of is distinctly different than the old one, or the old chassis. It's got a different surface finish (more dull, it seems) and the actual CF pattern is different.
They may have switched the carbon for different flex characteristics as well. We only see the top and bottom layers of the weave, which will almost always look the same, but there are multiple layers inbetween that can be layed down completely different from the top and bottom depending on how stiff the finished pieces need to be.
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Anyone know if any other cars belt will work for the 416 in a pinch...
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