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Old 01-04-2009, 02:42 AM   #3856
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but then don't you have to tune with different foam disks needed to insert above between bladder and shock-cap?
And isn't it difficult to make 4 the same foams every time, as the thickness of this foam must make a difference, I guess.
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I've been using the alloy spacers and the thicker they are the more rebound you get. 2mm gives me pretty much full rebound and 1.5mm is half that and 1mm is almost none. No making and guessing here and I've been getting the same rebound on all 4 shocks so far
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I've been using the alloy spacers and the thicker they are the more rebound you get. 2mm gives me pretty much full rebound and 1.5mm is half that and 1mm is almost none. No making and guessing here and I've been getting the same rebound on all 4 shocks so far
What "alloy" spacers?
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Old 01-04-2009, 12:16 PM   #3859
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but then don't you have to tune with different foam disks needed to insert above between bladder and shock-cap?
And isn't it difficult to make 4 the same foams every time, as the thickness of this foam must make a difference, I guess.
Use o-rings.
Its about pack... do not overwill the shocks w/oil.
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Old 01-04-2009, 12:39 PM   #3860
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but then don't you have to tune with different foam disks needed to insert above between bladder and shock-cap?
And isn't it difficult to make 4 the same foams every time, as the thickness of this foam must make a difference, I guess.
Yeah, I'd probably use o-rings since they don't compress as much. At the moment, I'm running exclusively on high-traction carpet, and the car seems happier with less rebound, so I'm not messing with with adding anything inside. Shock caps are inexpensive, so it's easy enough to have another set on hand if you want to build them back up the normal way.
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What "alloy" spacers?

Its the same spacers we use for camber link height, steering throw & track length adjustments.
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You should see the rip with an SMC or TP LiPo over the Orion! :O
When I do run a spec class like 10.5 I use the Orion 3800 LiPo packs and have never had a problem with someone having more power...
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MuchMore makes a set of foam disks for above the bladders that has been the best way I've found to fine tune if you're running a hole in the cap. They come in a set with 3 thicknesses and then super thin double sided tape incase you want to make your own sizes.
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I Thought i may be able to help you with Springs.

Brand/Colour......Comp./ Ratio
Hara Yellow..........12.89lb/230g
Hara White...........13.98lb/250g
Hara Black............15.11lb/270g
HPI Blue...............15.3lb/273g
Hara Purple...........16.24lb/290g
HPI Silver.............16.9lb/302g
Hara Red..............17.36lb/310g
HPI Pink...............18.0lb/320g
HPI Gold...............19.0lb/340g
HPI White.............20.3lb/363g
HPI Yellow............21.7lb/388g
HPI Red................22.4lb/400g

I Hope this Helps

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Are you sure of the ratings? I thought the Hara silver was 14lbs???? You have the white listed at 13.98lbs I will have to double check all my spring rates and compare them to what you have posted.
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When I do run a spec class like 10.5 I use the Orion 3800 LiPo packs and have never had a problem with someone having more power...
I will be running the 3800 this weekend in 13.5 against the SMC and TP packs. I'm sure I'll be more than happy with the power. Scotty ran a 3600 at last years Reedy and won one of the Amain races with it against the SMC and whatever else others were running. Too many people bench racing C ratings.
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Hi Guys,
Why you don't use Tamiya Springs? Are them not so good compared with other out there?

Thanks for your feed back.
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Eh, I'm not a huge fan of bench racing, or mythical C ratings. I'm glad they're working out well for you guys. I'm sure your team manager is thrilled!
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I will be running the 3800 this weekend in 13.5 against the SMC and TP packs. I'm sure I'll be more than happy with the power. Scotty ran a 3600 at last years Reedy and won one of the Amain races with it against the SMC and whatever else others were running. Too many people bench racing C ratings.
I'm sure you'll be happy with the stuff, it's been good for me. I've finally got the new motors figured out and they are up to speed with anything out there from what I've seen.

I'm not putting down any other manufacturers products, I just saw that someone is claiming you will smoke the Orion batts with other brand batteries, and in my experience that couldn't be further from the truth.
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Are you sure of the ratings? I thought the Hara silver was 14lbs???? You have the white listed at 13.98lbs I will have to double check all my spring rates and compare them to what you have posted.
Hey,

Haha, Sorry Man, i think i may have just put white instead of Silver. Sorry, no idea what i was doing

So with Hara Springs, you will have:

Red is Super Hard
Purple is Hard
Black is Medium
Silver is Soft
Yellow is Super Soft

I hope this helps, im sorry if i confused anyone

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i bet you could check a lot of springs and most of them would be close but different enough. somehow i dont believe they are made with such strict standards as maybe the k-factory or x-ray springs.
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