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Old 11-19-2008, 12:57 PM
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Originally Posted by t4m1y4niac View Post
damn..that motor mount must be very expensive...
where it bolts to the chassis mount is higher up on the motor mount.

not sure, but i think it improves the l/r flex of the chassis
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Old 11-19-2008, 02:50 PM
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Look like it just rotates the motor a bit back at the top... so the screw doesnt get trapped by the upper deck. And also it looks like they milled out some weight too! If they wanted flex there they would have omitted the little brace at the bottom. Speaking of bottoms, does anyone want a yellow bikini?
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Old 11-19-2008, 03:39 PM
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hi guys, before i cut the rear brace on my 416 what can i expect to acheive? would i gain more flex as in using the new top deck, at the moment my car tends to kick the rear end with on power and im struggling to improve this.

also i copied a link for the setup sheets, fill in and print..

but mine just puts a blue solid dot at the number ie where the shock is positioned, is there a way to change this for example on Ed Clarkes setups he had red circles around the desired number..

thanks in advance
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Originally Posted by mark williams View Post
hi guys, before i cut the rear brace on my 416 what can i expect to acheive? would i gain more flex as in using the new top deck, at the moment my car tends to kick the rear end with on power and im struggling to improve this.

also i copied a link for the setup sheets, fill in and print..

but mine just puts a blue solid dot at the number ie where the shock is positioned, is there a way to change this for example on Ed Clarkes setups he had red circles around the desired number..

thanks in advance
I think Ed's were done in another program, I did mine in paint

You should probably try different setup tricks to get rid of the kick (loose?) on power, like a bit more front droop. I've been thinking about the cut rear brace a bit and I've come to the conclusion that it will flex more than the 1pc deck but will make the car tweak easily. The 1pc deck holds the rear bulkhead sections in-line whilst allowing the left/right sides of the bulkheads to move up and down independently as the chassis flexes torsionally. With the cut brace, the front bulkhead section with the motor mount & spur holder could move side to side in relation to the diff sections as there is only 1 screw in either side and I would imagine if the chassis settled different to how you set it up this would change your rear droop side to side.

Thats my theory anyway, happy to hear from anyone that's tried the cut brace though

+1 on the speedtech recomendation. After I got my 416 from champ a friend wanted one and they were one of the last places with stock, their service was excellent and he landed it for less than I got mine
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Old 11-19-2008, 04:58 PM
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Ryptec Where have you been ????? No more Happy Hour with Dave? LOL
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Old 11-20-2008, 12:58 AM
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We have recently changed to the 416. My son drives mod using 3,5 and 4,0 motors.

The problem is stripping rear belts. During yesterdays training he finished two belts.

Does anyone have similar experiences?
I searched the thread and it doesn't seem to be a common problem. Mayby he has done some mistake in putting the car together.
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Old 11-20-2008, 01:20 AM
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I have ran my 416 all year with a GM 7T delta motor on 5 cell with the same belts and still using them now indoor on 10.5T. I run my belt loose and they appear to be fine

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Originally Posted by jarkko View Post
We have recently changed to the 416. My son drives mod using 3,5 and 4,0 motors.

The problem is stripping rear belts. During yesterdays training he finished two belts.

Does anyone have similar experiences?
I searched the thread and it doesn't seem to be a common problem. Mayby he has done some mistake in putting the car together.
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Old 11-20-2008, 01:51 AM
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Originally Posted by jarkko View Post
We have recently changed to the 416. My son drives mod using 3,5 and 4,0 motors.

The problem is stripping rear belts. During yesterdays training he finished two belts.

Does anyone have similar experiences?
I searched the thread and it doesn't seem to be a common problem. Mayby he has done some mistake in putting the car together.
i had that exact same problem with my 415MSXX. the solutionon the 415MSXX was to run larger centre pulleys to bring the internal ratio down. not sure if that is the case with the 416 though. Ed?
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Old 11-20-2008, 02:57 AM
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Originally Posted by jarkko View Post
We have recently changed to the 416. My son drives mod using 3,5 and 4,0 motors.

The problem is stripping rear belts. During yesterdays training he finished two belts.

Does anyone have similar experiences?
I searched the thread and it doesn't seem to be a common problem. Mayby he has done some mistake in putting the car together.
check both the centre pulley and the diff pulley for wear, once the teeth round the belts will skip
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Old 11-20-2008, 06:40 AM
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Well.. if thats a new car .. either you set your belt tension too lose or you need to turn the punch controll down a bit .. 3.5 is a lot of motor !
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Old 11-20-2008, 03:10 PM
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Ryptec Where have you been ????? No more Happy Hour with Dave? LOL
What's shaking Malibu. Keeping a low profile, saving for a house and stuff...esp with the way the market's been, I need to jump in on this cycle or else I won't be a ho-moaner until the next one. I managed to pick up a 1:1 scale 2009 corvette. Amazing what you can afford when not spending the money on sorex and rp tires...seyit!

The Tamiya track is still there..but no power to run all my electrical accoutrements. I picked up a mini-cooper and gave it the treatment...that stuff is fun but oh so slow.

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just Pre-ordered my WE with RC-Champ - 449$
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Are the springs that come with the car considered "short?" What about the milky blue spring kit? I'm trying to figure out the weight in pounds, and having trouble making sense of it.

Purple 22.72
Gray 20.91
White Short 17.24
Blue Short 15.27
White 14.82
Blue 14.08
Yellow 13.33
Red Short 13.24
Yellow Short 12.90
Red 11.86
Are those measurments still accurate? Where do the kit springs (and milky blue springs) fit into that chart?
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Werent the short ones for the Mini?
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Originally Posted by Adam? View Post
Are the springs that come with the car considered "short?" What about the milky blue spring kit? I'm trying to figure out the weight in pounds, and having trouble making sense of it.



Are those measurments still accurate? Where do the kit springs (and milky blue springs) fit into that chart?
These are the short springs:

http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...?&I=LXFAD6&P=7

I am pretty sure that the milky blue springs are the same length as the ones that come with the 416.
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