Tamiya TRF416 / TRF416WE / TRF416X
#3241

OMG WTF Is wrong with you guys .. since the tire was invented in ohio.. it would stand to reason we set the standard for spelling it.. sheesh.
and as for grip... the < ot the > was used as a spacer .. nothing else..
no grip.. thinner oil.... softer springs.. softer tires.. will yeild more grip.. u could change droop and roll centers would give u better results than removing a screw or cutting a brace. Im done here,, since no one is listening anyways .
and as for grip... the < ot the > was used as a spacer .. nothing else..
no grip.. thinner oil.... softer springs.. softer tires.. will yeild more grip.. u could change droop and roll centers would give u better results than removing a screw or cutting a brace. Im done here,, since no one is listening anyways .
So who's laughing now?
#3242

Burn burn burn...
burn your wicked garden down..
Burn burn burn...
burn your wicked garden to the ground.
YEAH!
burn your wicked garden down..
Burn burn burn...
burn your wicked garden to the ground.
YEAH!
Last edited by John St.Amant; 11-15-2008 at 02:02 AM.
#3243

I think i've got it !
We're atually talking about two different things ! Obviously if you have tires on your car, you want it as stiff as possible. However in japan and europe, we use tyres which react completely differently and require a certain amount of flex.
We're atually talking about two different things ! Obviously if you have tires on your car, you want it as stiff as possible. However in japan and europe, we use tyres which react completely differently and require a certain amount of flex.
#3244

Ahh HA! I got you ... actually John Boyd Dunlop (1840-1921) was a Scottish veterinarian and the recognized inventor of the first practical pneumatic or inflatable tire. ... a bit of psychy goes a long way ...
#3245
Tech Regular
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Wow whatever made you think of that?
Since you are actually right! I cannot understand why you guys didn't notice he was saying the exact same thing as everyone else is. Only he is talking about tires (foam that is) where the rest of us is talking about tyres (rubber...). As they would say in England: "see, sorted".

#3246

And sarcasm is not a productive tool.
#3247

Some people don't like being proved wrong...
If you'd even bothered to read my link you'd realize that Thomson invented it way before Dunlop but Dunlop was the one who developped an industrial process to manufacture it.
If you'd even bothered to read my link you'd realize that Thomson invented it way before Dunlop but Dunlop was the one who developped an industrial process to manufacture it.
#3248

Google this
inventor of the tire..
and foam is for pan cars ..
we use mostly sorex 28's here. Tires....
inventor of the tire..
and foam is for pan cars ..
we use mostly sorex 28's here. Tires....
#3249

So let me get this straight..... The world's are going on right now, there's two 416's in the top 10, and all the chatter on the 416 thread is about what country invented the TIRE/TYRE?

#3250

See the detail you are missing here is practical... The inventor of the first PRACTICAL rubber tyre. FYI his patent application was refused because Thomson had already patented it before him.
Now as far as chassis stiffness is concerned, I don't know about you but I'd rather spend less time finding a good setup on a "soft" car than a lot more time on a "rigid" car. At the end of the day corner speed is all about getting the tyres to temperature and using the available grip provided by the tyres, which is fairly limited on most surfaces.
Now as far as chassis stiffness is concerned, I don't know about you but I'd rather spend less time finding a good setup on a "soft" car than a lot more time on a "rigid" car. At the end of the day corner speed is all about getting the tyres to temperature and using the available grip provided by the tyres, which is fairly limited on most surfaces.
#3251

lol yeah, i don't care about the 416 i'm not using a tamiya atm but this guy's too funny.
#3252

ok,, u r smarter that the web.. sorry to bother you einstein.
just google it for christ sake..
just google it for christ sake..
#3253
#3254

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tire
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_William_Thomson
now that's sorted, let's talk 416!
# 1843 – Charles Goodyear announces vulcanization
# 1846 – Robert William Thomson invented and patented the pneumatic tire
# 1888 – First commercial pneumatic bicycle tire produced by Dunlop
# 1889 – John Boyd Dunlop patented the pneumatic tire in the UK
# 1846 – Robert William Thomson invented and patented the pneumatic tire
# 1888 – First commercial pneumatic bicycle tire produced by Dunlop
# 1889 – John Boyd Dunlop patented the pneumatic tire in the UK
Robert William Thomson (baptised 26 July 1822–8 March 1873), from Stonehaven, Scotland, was the original inventor of the pneumatic tyre.[1]