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Old 10-03-2008, 09:52 PM
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Originally Posted by mild seven View Post
I'm guessing the new 416 will come with a locked front diff and center pulleys.
What is locked front diff?
Not same as spool?
Do you mean that kind of TC5's slipper spool?
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Old 10-03-2008, 10:32 PM
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sorry, yeah i mean like a spool (solid axle).
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Old 10-04-2008, 12:21 AM
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Originally Posted by mild seven View Post
sorry, yeah i mean like a spool (solid axle).
OK well, just misunderstanding.
How about titanium turnbuckles and new belt drives(i saw M. Rheinard used some prototype belt in europe). Longer topdecks are also good and i wish steel swing shafts, rather those "bad" aluminium ones, which i saw someguy broke in the 1st race, but, if they will include aluminium rear axle will not be bad, in the case i never broke mines of trf415 in the rear.

Then anybody could tell me why wish using AH spring rather than TRF ones.
As i know the hardness between of different AH springs are closer than TRF ones.
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Old 10-04-2008, 06:57 AM
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Hey guys,

Not sure if this has been discussed before.

http://www.tamiyausa.com/product/ite...oduct-id=42138

Perfect timing too, I'm due for an upgrade
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Old 10-04-2008, 07:21 AM
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Isn't that an black top set up?
I race on carpet and would hope that it would include a one way front diff and a one way center shaft. (and billtett rear uprights) lol
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hi guys, i have a setup question...what is the effect of running shorter top camber links on the 416 or any car coming to that..also if i shorten the top rear camber link and move the ball joint in towards the car on the rear upright what will this do for the handling, does the same answer apply to shortening the front camber link and moving the ball joint towards the outside of the car..hope this makes sense..many thanks in advance
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Old 10-04-2008, 07:18 PM
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Originally Posted by mark williams View Post
hi guys, i have a setup question...what is the effect of running shorter top camber links on the 416 or any car coming to that..also if i shorten the top rear camber link and move the ball joint in towards the car on the rear upright what will this do for the handling, does the same answer apply to shortening the front camber link and moving the ball joint towards the outside of the car..hope this makes sense..many thanks in advance
Shorter links equals higher roll center and less roll.
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Old 10-04-2008, 09:03 PM
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and..what happen with "less roll"?
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Old 10-05-2008, 01:22 AM
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less grip
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Well... figure that most cars come with anti-roll bars fromt and some times rear as well. Perhaps the manufacutrers are trying to tell you something there. Either they expect you to run on a farily good surface with good traction, or they just want to say that (sway bars) are a good idea. But If theres so much traction that your cars seems to pitch before yaw then perhaps a stiffer spring may help. But the bar combines the springs at a rate of the diameter of the sway bar. But on the other hand some say that the bar affects the responce time (slower) of the car in transition. Either way {stiffer spring / sway bar} u are giving up grip. I believe in running the softest spring possible for mechanical grip... and using anti-roll bars front and rear to adjust the balance front to rear. A thicker bar makes the car stay flatter in the turns but decreases the lateral traction. In front its is refered to slip angle.
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who let this cat in the back door ?

great post john

this wouldnt be the john from larrys would it ? if not i apologize for the above statement
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Old 10-05-2008, 08:49 PM
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Hello

I found a few pictures, of the TRF 416 World edition

http://www.anonym.to/?http://www.rc-...75&pg=1&anch=2

There is new absorbers High Lubrication, spool, better engine owner and a whole Topdeck.

That´s all.

( Sorry for my Englisch)

greetz moog

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is the motor position on 416 WE more backward than original 416???
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Old 10-05-2008, 11:20 PM
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Looks a fair bit different when i saw a pre release shot from tamiya
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Originally Posted by moog View Post
Hello

I found a few pictures, of the TRF 416 World edition

http://www.anonym.to/?http://www.rc-...75&pg=1&anch=2

There is new absorbers High Lubrication, spool, better engine owner and a whole Topdeck.

That´s all.

( Sorry for my Englisch)

greetz moog
short arms and the rear belt marc rienhard was using at euros, centre belt doesn't look to have the red dots tho - I'm wondering if thats the real deal
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