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Old 11-08-2007, 10:05 AM
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what we need is a sweet little chart showing what parts carry over.
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Old 11-08-2007, 10:43 AM
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was just wondering why tamiya USA is still carrying the incorrect pictures of the 416
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Old 11-08-2007, 10:46 AM
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before X'mas arrive !
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Old 11-08-2007, 11:04 AM
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Now i have to wait until Santa bring me a new TRF416
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Old 11-08-2007, 11:16 AM
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Question? And don't jump on me for this! I own an MSXX with the 2.5mm Chassis. I will be running on carpet this year instock, 13.5. Why do you need the 416? This year at the Reedy and the IIC Marc R used his old car, what is the big difference in performance over the 415 MSXX? Could you tell the difference? I just can't justify spending 400-500$ every 6-12 months on a new design that has small changes that you can't even notice unless you are a world class driver. I still love Tamiya and would never change to another car, but convince me why should I buy a 416
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Old 11-08-2007, 11:23 AM
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Originally Posted by JayL View Post
what we need is a sweet little chart showing what parts carry over.
It seems to be very little that will resemble 415 parts on the 416... but most will be interested in what 416 parts will fit back on the 415..

Spur gear assembly is totally different, even the one-way pulley they'll have to remake in 18T, though 415 owners would be interested in that..

Belts won't carry, even 18T 415 users, as the motor/spur placement is further back..

Suspension will carry over to an extent, the 416 will be using new uprights to fit 5x10 bearings (and maybe accomodate foam tires!) while the arms and caster hubs will be the same LWS.. just hope you kept your original suspension universal axles! One issue might be the 45mm shafts that come in the 416.. will we need them in order to fit the new hubs on the 415, or is it just for additional clearance for narrower blocks and short arms?

Suspension blocks probably will be the same type, with the exception of the front A and D Bridge blocks since the belt is not centered anymore.. they may just end up releasing new ones in the same style as the X-blocks, flippable with a 3mm post included..

The front diff/one-way/spool will be different, more like the TA05's, mirroring the rear.. Larger pulleys are nice, esp. with the extra balls and larger plates, though I'll keep my 36T Widepitch for now.. the diff halves themselves will have to be larger to accomodate the bigger plates. Maybe compatible with the TA05, or the 415 rear at least?

Shocks are supposed to be a new kind, I guess we'll have to wait to find out how, and if they're any better than the regular TRF Special shocks..

I'd imagine they'd be using the same MRE steering, though I can't see..

So, basically short of the arms, C-hubs, wheel hexes and screws, there will be relatively little in the 416 that resembles 415 parts..
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TRF416 ?
Which one with photo can see TRF416 motor mount is 1pc
or motor mount with left side center shaft mount 1pc ?



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Originally Posted by gijoe64 View Post
Question? And don't jump on me for this! I own an MSXX with the 2.5mm Chassis. I will be running on carpet this year instock, 13.5. Why do you need the 416? This year at the Reedy and the IIC Marc R used his old car, what is the big difference in performance over the 415 MSXX? Could you tell the difference? I just can't justify spending 400-500$ every 6-12 months on a new design that has small changes that you can't even notice unless you are a world class driver. I still love Tamiya and would never change to another car, but convince me why should I buy a 416
Why be convinced? For most people it is because they 'want' to get it. It wont be because they 'need' to get it.
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It looks like sometime in January...but...

http://www.speedtechrc.com/store/ebp...id=120&id=6970
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Instead of Speedtech and Rc Champ, what sites could make preorder for this chassis?
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Old 11-15-2007, 09:10 AM
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Instead of Speedtech and Rc Champ, what sites could make preorder for this chassis?
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What's wrong with either of these? I've ordered a ton of stuff from RC Champ & they have saved me a ton of money & not to mention the shipping was fast. Speedtech isn't all that bad either especially since they're in the US.
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Originally Posted by wrxnfx View Post
What's wrong with either of these? I've ordered a ton of stuff from RC Champ & they have saved me a ton of money & not to mention the shipping was fast. Speedtech isn't all that bad either especially since they're in the US.
Nothing wrong, just to see each sites previewed release date and comparing the price.
Speedtech didn't reply to me before when I asked something.
RC Champ it's still an unknown, they are very polite and responsible, but it's very complex to buying from them, because it's not allowed to using paypal in my zone and i am not sure if i could fill the ordersheet manually then send them with scanning because i don't have "office"
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Can someone post a link to where it is on RC Champ. I can't seem to find it.
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Can someone post a link to where it is on RC Champ. I can't seem to find it.
you need to email them about it.

champ_international "at" yahoo.co.jp
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Speedtech didn't reply to me before when I asked something.
Jeff at Speedtech is really good about replying to e-mails, but as with any place that gets big volumes of e-mails, sometimes stuff falls through the cracks. Just hit him up again...e-mail is pretty cheap.

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