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Old 08-11-2008, 04:37 PM
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steering... Here's something for you to mull over. Last weekend, didn't have enough at the local track, so made some alterations to suit... This weekend, same track, exact same setup and tyres... Way too much. Ended up going to hard/med f/r roll bars, along with a bit of front kick up, and the car was spot on again...

Ok, so why were the changes required? Simply, the track was hugely more grippy than the weekend before, so required quite a different setup to get to work.

So, what am I trying to say? Simply, bear in mind your track conditions. A team drivers setup from even a reasonably grippy track won't work on a dusty parking lot... As a rule of thumb, the lower the grip level, the more steering you'll need to find in your setups.

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Old 08-11-2008, 07:49 PM
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Hello All,

Just wondering if anyone here has an original 415 for sale that is in good condition. send me a pm if you want to sell.

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Old 08-12-2008, 03:32 PM
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Hey guys I have been running a 415msx for a while and have had very good success with it and love it, I am hopefully going to be getting a 416 very soon, within a few days!! I was just wondering if this car cannot not be too competitive on carpet with foams, since the thickest chassis is the 2.5mm with no stiffening posts either, and other top cars offer more stiff setups, I usually run asphault, but a few months of of the year I run carpet a lot, which was also difficult for the 415. Is there a solution to this with the 416? can the 2.5mm chassis compete with foam carpet? thx!!
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Old 08-12-2008, 03:42 PM
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Randy- Did you get your car yet? These guys aren't going to get any faster with you on the sidelines being a cheerleader..... Work on those toe touches!!!!
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I was wondering if anyone has been running much with the standard suspension arms versus the short arms, and if so have you found any luck with that setup? Seems like a lot of guys run the short arms, but given my handling issues where it feels like the rear of the car is skating, I think the long arms would be a good try.

Has anyone else found this to be the case?
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Old 08-13-2008, 12:42 PM
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I have tested long/short arms back to back and I found the car to be as fast but considerably easier to drive with the long arms. With short arms the rear of the car was a bit loose entering corners but with long arms this habit disappeared completely.
Remember to measure and adjust track width, droop and ride height when changing to long arms.
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Old 08-13-2008, 02:08 PM
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Originally Posted by CarKing View Post
I was wondering if anyone has been running much with the standard suspension arms versus the short arms, and if so have you found any luck with that setup? Seems like a lot of guys run the short arms, but given my handling issues where it feels like the rear of the car is skating, I think the long arms would be a good try.

Has anyone else found this to be the case?
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I have tested long/short arms back to back and I found the car to be as fast but considerably easier to drive with the long arms. With short arms the rear of the car was a bit loose entering corners but with long arms this habit disappeared completely.
Remember to measure and adjust track width, droop and ride height when changing to long arms.
CarKing, i liked the car better with the short arms.i did adjust the blocks to make sure the stance was almost identical. i asked Dave about his set up, and he was also running short arms.
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Old 08-13-2008, 04:28 PM
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Originally Posted by TryHard View Post
steering... Here's something for you to mull over. Last weekend, didn't have enough at the local track, so made some alterations to suit... This weekend, same track, exact same setup and tyres... Way too much. Ended up going to hard/med f/r roll bars, along with a bit of front kick up, and the car was spot on again...

Ok, so why were the changes required? Simply, the track was hugely more grippy than the weekend before, so required quite a different setup to get to work.

So, what am I trying to say? Simply, bear in mind your track conditions. A team drivers setup from even a reasonably grippy track won't work on a dusty parking lot... As a rule of thumb, the lower the grip level, the more steering you'll need to find in your setups.

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Ed,

do you have an "interactive" version of the blank 416 set up sheet? if not, do you want one? im almost done with the 416 (complete with checkboxes, pulldowns) so you can fill out the set up sheet easier.

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Originally Posted by Hebiki View Post
Ed,

do you have an "interactive" version of the blank 416 set up sheet? if not, do you want one? im almost done with the 416 (complete with checkboxes, pulldowns) so you can fill out the set up sheet easier.

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I know I'd like it
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Old 08-13-2008, 05:09 PM
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soon.... real soon.
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I have two 416 one with titanium screws with the short arms on it.the other has kit screws and stock arms. Both cars are very clean. each has a spool in it. with a one-way for both. Pictures will be posted tomorrow. $750.00 for everything listed. If you need anymore info call me 727-385-4318 Thanks Ron H,

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Part #
1each-49463 Urethane Bumper
1 -9804373 Diff Joint
5 -9804268 Direct Cups for 49394
1 -40493 Direct Coupling spool
1 -51287 Long diff plate
1 -AO-5015 Diff spring
1 -SP-594 2x10 shaft pins
1 -OP-933 1mm mount spacers
4 -OP-890 Swing shaft blades
1 -OP-601 5mm ball cups
4 -SP-1332 Front Upright
2 -SP-1333 Rear Upright
5 -SP-1293 Hub carrier 4 degree
5 -6244017 Rear short drive belt
2 -OP-988 Diff Pulley 37t
2 -OP-One-way pulley 37t
5 -OP-989 Center pulley 18t
2 -SP-589 5mm E-Ring
1 -SP-380 E-ring set
3 -6244016 Long Drive belt
2 -OP-709 5mm Suspension ball
3 -9804374 2x22mm screw & nut
3 -SP-1100 4.6 x 4.7 flanged tube
1 -OP-907 5x8mm hex ball
1 -OP-724 46mm axle
1 -OP-Universal shaft set
2 -F & R Shock Towers
3 -SP-1067 Suspension Mount (C)
1 -SP-1069 " " (X)
1 -OP-808 " " (XA)
1 -OP-810 " " (XC)
4 -SP-1104 Suspension Arm
1 -OP-928 Short " "
2 -OP-46mm shafts
1 -OP-918 TRF Damper Collar
1 -OP-334 Damper Collar
1 -SP-1253 Bumper Parts


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1 spool
2 steel 46mm axles
6 blue 44mm axles
Front Square aluminum blue 4 degree c-hubs
Suspension blocks 1e,1x,1b,1a

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Old 08-13-2008, 11:49 PM
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Is there anywhere in the US that has the 1E or 1D blocks in stock? Preferably 416 style, but 415 will do as well.
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Old 08-14-2008, 10:59 AM
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Default 416 setup sheet ready...

okay... i have good news...and bad news....

the 416 set up sheet is ready to go. it has fields, dropdowns, radio buttons, etc to make filling out a set up sheet on a website available.

bad news first. unless you have Adobe Acrobat, you cannot save the pdf file. you can only print it out with the values you have entered in.

good news... well i completed it.

of course the file is HUGE.

Ed, let me know if you can upload this to your site. post on here and i can email it to anyone that might want it.
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Old 08-14-2008, 11:07 AM
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no worries... can't remember the attachement size limit, but if your having issues drop me a line and I can host it anyway

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Old 08-14-2008, 11:40 AM
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Originally Posted by TryHard View Post
no worries... can't remember the attachement size limit, but if your having issues drop me a line and I can host it anyway

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sent you a PM sir.
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