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Old 06-16-2008, 07:38 AM
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yes its the Tamiya 49224 Car stand (bought it 5 years ago). I am looking for more of the blue Tamiya Pit Towels. The black ones are available.

Looking forward for the last ETS race in Andernach/Germany. Anyone else with the 416 in 9.5T Sport Class?
I'm in modify...
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Old 06-16-2008, 11:57 AM
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Originally Posted by sakaguchinet View Post
Hi,

yes its the Tamiya 49224 Car stand (bought it 5 years ago). I am looking for more of the blue Tamiya Pit Towels. The black ones are available.

Looking forward for the last ETS race in Andernach/Germany. Anyone else with the 416 in 9.5T Sport Class?
I run it in Mod class as well, as we do not have a stock class here. but with a 3.xx fdr and a 9.5, that thing could race in mod class
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Old 06-17-2008, 04:29 PM
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ok so iam back,havent been here for years,literally.
some of the old memebers may remember e but i havent seen any of them yet,pizzadude,rickycopsy,mr jolly etc.and more.

anyways been racing 416 on carpet short tight track.
found the car like a stiffer suspension set-up then the 415.
probably because of the increase in flex and re arranged weight distribution.

i dunno what else i can contribute,running groskamp DHI set-up apart from tamiya utra hard springs front and the grey springs back.
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Originally Posted by trf racer View Post
ok so iam back,havent been here for years,literally.
some of the old memebers may remember e but i havent seen any of them yet,pizzadude,rickycopsy,mr jolly etc.and more.

anyways been racing 416 on carpet short tight track.
found the car like a stiffer suspension set-up then the 415.
probably because of the increase in flex and re arranged weight distribution.

i dunno what else i can contribute,running groskamp DHI set-up apart from tamiya utra hard springs front and the grey springs back.
ultra hard meaning the burgundy ones?
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Old 06-17-2008, 04:57 PM
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ultra hard meaning the burgundy ones?
yup burgendy/purple lol.on front and grey back.
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Old 06-19-2008, 07:23 PM
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Originally Posted by sakaguchinet View Post
Hi,

yes its the Tamiya 49224 Car stand (bought it 5 years ago). I am looking for more of the blue Tamiya Pit Towels. The black ones are available.

Looking forward for the last ETS race in Andernach/Germany. Anyone else with the 416 in 9.5T Sport Class?
www.speedtechrc.com has the Tamiya blue towles in stock.
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Old 06-20-2008, 08:45 PM
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Looks like the 416 is back in stock at a few US online hobby shops.
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Old 06-21-2008, 10:01 AM
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Hello Everyone,

I have been reading this article since I got my 416 3 Weeks ago.
I was wondering, if you use the short arm modification only for carpet tracks or also for asphalt tracks.
Can someone please describe in a few words how it affects the performance of the car. I don't understand why it's better then the original Kit Parts. Is it only because of the original wishbones having to much play?

Yesterday I was driving the car on the tight carpet track in our club, with 9,5T brushless and 5 Cells. I was mainly using the Kit Set-up. I liked how the car turned in but it could have more steering in mid-curve. Also the car could behave more direct (rolls to much in my opinion). With higher Rollcenter I had less grip. What should I try next?

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Old 06-21-2008, 02:24 PM
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Hi,

now I had a look on my car and filled in a Setting Sheet with yesterdays Setup. So you can have a look and make some suggestion for further changes.
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Old 06-21-2008, 02:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Mirko View Post
Hello Everyone,

I have been reading this article since I got my 416 3 Weeks ago.
I was wondering, if you use the short arm modification only for carpet tracks or also for asphalt tracks.
Can someone please describe in a few words how it affects the performance of the car. I don't understand why it's better then the original Kit Parts. Is it only because of the original wishbones having to much play?


Thanks for the Help.
At the last race I tested both short and long arms. Long arms make the car smoother so it is a easier to drive. Fastest lap times similar but more consistent with long arms. On big flowing asfalt tracks I think long arms is the way to go.

Remeber to try and use similar damper position, width and droop when changing from short to long arms so you see the real diffrence.
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Old 06-22-2008, 12:13 AM
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I think you'll find with your car set up properly that short arms are quicker most of the time
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hey I have an question on the toe blocks
so there are 3 different types
the A,B the 1A,1B and the 1XA, 1XB
so they are all different, so which types have the lowest suspen pin postion?
(mount the arms are lower to the chassie?
can anyone tell me
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well I've had the car for about 5 months now and I have gone through 2 servos, 4 servo horns, and 3 turnbuckles. I have hit things but it never is really hard. Small things like hitting dots and other cars. I'm not sure it I have built things wrong but I would like some help. If you have any ideas that wuold be great. Other than not hitting things.
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Originally Posted by POUNDITRACING View Post
well I've had the car for about 5 months now and I have gone through 2 servos, 4 servo horns, and 3 turnbuckles. I have hit things but it never is really hard. Small things like hitting dots and other cars. I'm not sure it I have built things wrong but I would like some help. If you have any ideas that wuold be great. Other than not hitting things.
By servo horns, do you mean you don't use any servo saver? If so, then THAT'S likely why you're going through servos, if I can help it, I don't run ANY car without one, & as a result, I've lost maybe 2 or 3 servos in the 19+ years I've been racing(& Kimborough's servo savers work VERY well, just be careful to buy the right one for the application). And for turnbuckles, are you still using the original alunimum ones? If so, then DEFINITELY get some titanium ones, at least for the links from the bellcranks to the front uprights(those 42mm turnbuckles are just too long to trust to aluminum, I broke mine pretty quickly, so it didn't take long before I changed those to titanium, & if you have trouble finding the precise ones you need, try Lundsford's 1 5/8" ones, they're VERY close to 42mm, & that's what I bought for my 416(& they hold up just fine)....
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Originally Posted by Vicko View Post
hey I have an question on the toe blocks
so there are 3 different types
the A,B the 1A,1B and the 1XA, 1XB
so they are all different, so which types have the lowest suspen pin postion?
(mount the arms are lower to the chassie?
can anyone tell me
I always keep a copy of the toe block chart that Ed made. you can get it from www.thard.co.uk
he also has many stuff there that will be useful as well...
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