4LikesTamiya TRF416 / TRF416WE / TRF416X
09-24-2007, 02:31 AM
#151
Originally Posted by bender
I would say that the chassis may not be 100% production yet, though putting a couple of slots in for 5 cells is not a big job 
Looking closely (as I said before) you can see that the car is quite a bit different, and reflects Tamiya's design philosphy of being "optimised" for brushless and handout tyres.
Optimised for brushless because it uses the bigger diff / layshaft pulleys to beef up the drivetrain.
Optimised for hand-out tyres because there is more flex built into the car as there are no steering posts connecting to the longer top deck, and the rear bulkheads are now split (cyclone style) and joined by thin carbon piece.
Not it's not revolutionary, but overall it's different enough from the original 415 to be called a new car
Looking closely (as I said before) you can see that the car is quite a bit different, and reflects Tamiya's design philosphy of being "optimised" for brushless and handout tyres.
Optimised for brushless because it uses the bigger diff / layshaft pulleys to beef up the drivetrain.
Optimised for hand-out tyres because there is more flex built into the car as there are no steering posts connecting to the longer top deck, and the rear bulkheads are now split (cyclone style) and joined by thin carbon piece.
Not it's not revolutionary, but overall it's different enough from the original 415 to be called a new car
Yes the car is quite different actually. it has much more flex within the design. good or bad we have to see.
the only disappointment I have is the servo position. I want that servo rotated 90 degrees. I guess we will use the dremel and shoegoo trick again...
09-24-2007, 03:33 AM
#152
Originally Posted by Toughbeard
the only disappointment I have is the servo position. I want that servo rotated 90 degrees. I guess we will use the dremel and shoegoo trick again...
09-24-2007, 03:55 AM
#153
they ran out of space for the 415MSXXXX WC 2 XX MMMSSS can only go so far 
09-24-2007, 05:41 AM
#154
Originally Posted by Toughbeard
the only disappointment I have is the servo position. I want that servo rotated 90 degrees. I guess we will use the dremel and shoegoo trick again...
Ed
09-25-2007, 11:02 AM
#155
Tech Adept
Intresting to compare how much faster that new 416 will be than my MRE 
09-25-2007, 12:08 PM
#156
Originally Posted by Cruisaaja
Intresting to compare how much faster that new 416 will be than my MRE
09-26-2007, 01:06 AM
#157
Originally Posted by TryHard
..thing is, there is no way you'll get a servo rotated 90 deg to work with the steering system, as the connecting links would all be wrong. For the system in use, your stuck with that layout, which in my mind, is no problem at all..
Ed
Ed
The reason I wanted this is because the the outer mounting screw for the servo constantly scrapes the ground. you I end up shaving the carbon and omiting the screw all together.
09-26-2007, 01:12 AM
#158
Originally Posted by Cruisaaja
Intresting to compare how much faster that new 416 will be than my MRE
which already blazing fast. But from what I see the 416 will be much easier to tune in low traction or/and with hard tire usage My MRE felt very stable and drove excellent with 24 to 28 shore tires. It will be very interesting to compare the two cars. I hope some parts are atleast interchangable (like the toe blocks)
09-26-2007, 12:39 PM
#159
On carpet...still can't beat the 415.
Pic from 2008 Vegas:
http://www.rc50.com/modules.php?name...756&fullsize=1
Pic from 2008 Vegas:
http://www.rc50.com/modules.php?name...756&fullsize=1
09-26-2007, 01:16 PM
#160
Originally Posted by Nexus
On carpet...still can't beat the 415.
Pic from 2008 Vegas:
http://www.rc50.com/modules.php?name...756&fullsize=1
Pic from 2008 Vegas:
http://www.rc50.com/modules.php?name...756&fullsize=1
09-26-2007, 10:20 PM
#163
Tech Adept
Originally Posted by Nexus
On carpet...still can't beat the 415.
Pic from 2008 Vegas:
http://www.rc50.com/modules.php?name...756&fullsize=1
Pic from 2008 Vegas:
http://www.rc50.com/modules.php?name...756&fullsize=1
That`s Hupos car, but what about Marc? I`d like to see that new 416 in action and how it perform on carpet?
09-26-2007, 11:15 PM
#164
Tech Apprentice
I have a 415 Refine 2 tamiya. Haven't run much on carpet but was thinking about doing some this year. Does anybody have a good baseline carpet setup for both rubber and foam racing? Thanks for the help...
im going reverse.TAM# gone mad. anybody wanna let go the 414m2?
