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Old 09-10-2007, 08:31 AM   #46
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The biggest problem I see is that there is no entry level or "hobby" class.

Stock is as fast now (or faster) than mod was 10 years ago. Add to that the prestige that stock racers seem to be getting at the big races and you have a lethal combination in your lowest class. First you have a new racer that can't drive their car because of the speed and then you add the racers that are more sport minded. It's just not good.

The funny thing is that when you mention to a stock racer that you want to slow the class down things get ugly. They're so afraid that they're going to go slower (in the slowest class) that they get all huffy about it. It's not a fun argument and it usually starts out with the standard "we need a mabuchi class" or some thing like that. Just what we need another class. For what it's worth, we do have a faster 19 turn class that you guys can run in if you want to go "fast". Maybe you'll end up getting good enough to run with the real "fast guys" in mod.

What we need is to slow stock again like we did in 91. Getting stock down to those speeds will help the new guys learn how to drive and it will help some of the more compeditive guys move up a class.
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[QUOTE=tc3team;3657795]Do you not think that people in forums who bash others (that he rightly said do so at the track too) put people off racing too then?

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NO. I talk alot of trash on the forums, but will be a step away from missing a heat to help someone. Trash talk is to keep things interesting, people just take things too seriously when you read it on a screen. In person, people that know me realize its all in jest but when the chips are down, I'll provide all the assistance I can muster to help em out. Socal is just bitter we got at him because of a ridiculous thread he posted that the folks wanted substantiated. His feeble attempts to thwart the attackers were lamblasted out of the water and he has had a chip on his shoulder ever since.
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NO. I talk alot of trash on the forums, but will be a step away from missing a heat to help someone. Trash talk is to keep things interesting, people just take things too seriously when you read it on a screen. In person, people that know me realize its all in jest but when the chips are down, I'll provide all the assistance I can muster to help em out. Socal is just bitter we got at him because of a ridiculous thread he posted that the folks wanted substantiated. His feeble attempts to thwart the attackers were lamblasted out of the water and he has had a chip on his shoulder ever since.
There are some that insist in hounding a newbie on a forum and at the track and that was my point,as we all know where to draw the line. If you don't you're not worth knowing imho

They are the guys that need to be taught a lesson or two.... when the newbie sends them off the track and into the barrier
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Old 09-10-2007, 08:56 AM   #49
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There are some that insist in hounding a newbie on a forum and at the track and that was my point,as we all know where to draw the line. If you don't you're not worth knowing imho

They are the guys that need to be taught a lesson or two.... when the newbie sends them off the track and into the barrier
I wouldnt intentionally do it unless the newb was an absolute jerk that was getting into the hobby to flaunt his cash and not his skills. That type of person needs to be shown the door because this hobby doesnt need em. We need the folks that are going to be here for the long haul<------God I hate that phrase.
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Old 09-10-2007, 09:04 AM   #50
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This hobby needs everyone we can get, even if they don't last long. I hate to say it, but the shops need people to buy the goods if they are to stay in business. If a nooB doesn't last, that was their decision. At least they gave racing a try - that is respectable.

Do I want people to last? Yes. I want my local tracks to last. If that means a cycling through of people all the time, so be it. There will always be some crazy sap like me that will stick for the long haul.
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Old 09-10-2007, 09:08 AM   #51
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The guys that have been in it for a long time are usually not the culprits, as they have too much to loose if they start spouting off at anyone.

Word gets round very quickly and before they know it theyre on their own. Who wants to race against them?

"People who exert the energy to talk sh*t, do so because they feel threatened, whether by what they are talking sh*t about, or by their own imperfections."

kinda sums it up for me.... I walk away from smack laughing at whos spouting it off. But unfortunatly, so do the newbies to - but they dont come back and thats the difference it can make to a clubs numbers
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Old 09-10-2007, 09:15 AM   #52
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The guys that have been in it for a long time are usually not the culprits, as they have too much to loose if they start spouting off at anyone.
must be different where you race. Its all the long time guys that talk smack 'round here. Most of them can back it up though.

Xtreme RC had a good article a couple months ago on effective smack talk.
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The guys that have been in it for a long time are usually not the culprits, as they have too much to loose if they start spouting off at anyone.

Word gets round very quickly and before they know it theyre on their own. Who wants to race against them?

"People who exert the energy to talk sh*t, do so because they feel threatened, whether by what they are talking sh*t about, or by their own imperfections."

kinda sums it up for me.... I walk away from smack laughing at whos spouting it off. But unfortunatly, so do the newbies to - but they dont come back and thats the difference it can make to a clubs numbers
Um, no. I talk trash to keep things interesting. People get into their little grooves and to break the monotony and get competitive juices flowing, a lil trash talk never hurt anybody. Those who cant take trash talk are usually so self absorbed that a lil bit of ball breaking throws them out of their groove....which trash talk is meant to do in the first place. It gives some the upper hand, for others, a few chuckles. Lighten up.
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One aspect of RC that hasnt changed is the length of the Raceday. It usually last 4-8 hours between the travel, practice qualifiers and mains. People just don't have that kind of free time anymore.

It gets worse when you consider that the actual mains only take 6 minutes (electric) or 15 minutes (nitro).

For the time and money spent, your're really not getting much in return. So the only people who do it are just hardcore addicts like those of us who also take the time to post here.
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Maybe I didnt define it right. But like I say, guys know when they cross the line too far

Guys that have been around for a long time know they have a "long time" status behind them too for being around so long so they are wise to what they say.

They may also not only be representing themselves, but sponsors too.

Thats all im saying

Im always game for a laugh at the track, thats what its all about
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For the time and money spent, your're really not getting much in return. So the only people who do it are just hardcore addicts like those of us who also take the time to post here.
Well first off, I'm definately not a hardcore addict, hell I haven't even ran a race yet, shoot I haven't even gotten to drive my car yet lol, but I think you make a good point, 5 hours of time, $50+ down and 18 min. of racing, could go to the themeparks for that kinda money.
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I agree with the comment about getting the children of the baby boomers into the hobby as the focus. People that are finally coming into their own, and have some disposable income for the hobby. Going after kids is okay, but there's too many things competing for their attention that are cheaper, more available, easier, and possibly even more fun. See also: WoW.

Hooking a slightly older crowd may be the way to interest the younger crowd, cause the children of baby boomers are having children of their own. R/C seems to work really well as a father/son sport, or father/daughter, as the case may be. Kids need 100% support from their parents to afford this, and that's a whole lot easier of the parents want to race too.
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Maybe I didnt define it right. But like I say, guys know when they cross the line too far

Guys that have been around for a long time know they have a "long time" status behind them too for being around so long so they are wise to what they say.

They may also not only be representing themselves, but sponsors too.

Thats all im saying

Im always game for a laugh at the track, thats what its all about
I hear you. Old salty dogs shouldnt be talking smack....they're too old for that. Some of us just like providing a little bit of comic relief. BUT, you hit it on the head when you said,"know when they cross the line". Some people go overboard and then it almost becomes a physical situation. To that regard, I draw the line. This zhit is too expensive to have me out there fighting over some foolishness.
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The biggest problem I see is that there is no entry level or "hobby" class.
Sportwerks Recoil is a great entry level product for any track/club running on road racing.

It's also very fun for an experienced racer.

Pretty much right out of the box it's competitive.

Just thought I would chime in.........
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I hear you. Some people go overboard and then it almost becomes a physical situation. To that regard, I draw the line. This zhit is too expensive to have me out there fighting over some foolishness.
You got it, nail... head... hammer

Too expensive with time... and cash. Theres plenty of other places to race when it gets ugly.
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