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Old 10-08-2007, 03:17 AM   #106
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What have you guys found the roll out on the 13.5/27T to be ??
Is it a lot more than the brushed motors in general ??
Ive heard some guys say they can run up to 45mm roll out, is that true ?
Normal brushed motors run around the 27mm - 31mm roll out window in general.
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What have you guys found the roll out on the 13.5/27T to be ??
Is it a lot more than the brushed motors in general ??
Ive heard some guys say they can run up to 45mm roll out, is that true ?
Normal brushed motors run around the 27mm - 31mm roll out window in general.
It depends on the rotor. With the sintered rotor, I was running around 41mm. With the new 13mm sintered rotor, it's even higher. I'm going to try it around 47 and go from there. This is for the Novak motor. The LRP/sintered seemed to be geared similarly. The Orion was quite a bit different.
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Old 10-08-2007, 10:03 AM   #108
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Thought as much, but its geared like a Johnson motor 8)
Ill try it out this weekend.

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Does anyone feel that the sintered 13.5 is too fast of motor to be "stock". When these babies are geared to their sweet spot, they are pretty fast. Are we looking at the wrong wind in BL to replace stock? I don't want, or mean to highjack a great thread. These babies rip!

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The speed of the 13.5 is exactly why there are new higher wind motors out there (like the 17.5). I've also heard rumors of even higher winds for some classes.
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Does anyone feel that the sintered 13.5 is too fast of motor to be "stock". When these babies are geared to their sweet spot, they are pretty fast. Are we looking at the wrong wind in BL to replace stock? I don't want, or mean to highjack a great thread. These babies rip!

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Over friday, I had a race, and one guy had his novak 13.5 with the new 13mm rotor, a LRP heat sink fan motor cooler, and it was geared 3.9

And it was just as fast as my orion 10.5
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Well I know not alot of people are going to agree with me, but I feel the 13.5 class should replace the stock class, this is why. To me the "stock truck" class isn't called "slow truck" its called stock so that everyone is required to run very similar motors, not run all kinds of different winds, with a "13.5" class it appeals to the real reason for the "stock" class, to help newer people get into racing (being slower then mod classes) and with brushless these newer racers don't need to undergo as much motor maintenance to have a "fast" motor. this is why there are "spec" classes.
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Over friday, I had a race, and one guy had his novak 13.5 with the new 13mm rotor, a LRP heat sink fan motor cooler, and it was geared 3.9

And it was just as fast as my orion 10.5
mike?

but that was compared to an orion 10.5 a novak 10.5 with the 13mm rotor would've smoked him.
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but that was compared to an orion 10.5 a novak 10.5 with the 13mm rotor would've smoked him.
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Well I know not alot of people are going to agree with me, but I feel the 13.5 class should replace the stock class, this is why. To me the "stock truck" class isn't called "slow truck" its called stock so that everyone is required to run very similar motors, not run all kinds of different winds, with a "13.5" class it appeals to the real reason for the "stock" class, to help newer people get into racing (being slower then mod classes) and with brushless these newer racers don't need to undergo as much motor maintenance to have a "fast" motor. this is why there are "spec" classes.
The problem is that we all tend to think about these motors based on the class that we run. With that being said, I can't emagine a new racer trying to run a 13.5 in sedan or 12th scale onroad. For the stock class, run a motor that's slow enough for new racers in every class.

Just as an example, a brushed 19 turn was about 3 tenths a lap off the pace compared to a 13.5 sintered in 12th. That's hardly a "beginner" speed.

The 13.5 is perfect for experienced racers in most if not all classes.
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mike?

but that was compared to an orion 10.5 a novak 10.5 with the 13mm rotor would've smoked him.
I still need to gear up lol..


Yes the orion is slower.... But still
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I'm getting a 17.5 to experiment with. I run the 13.5 in 12th and rubber/TC. You basically put the largest pinion you have on there and run it. Even on the conservative side, there is no way a beginner is gonna handle that. I like the 13.5 for "pro stock", but stock there is no way.

I'm running a 2.3ish rollout on my Gen X. I had to order a 76 and a 80 spur to find a little more. The 17.5 I hear, you have to add almost .500 more. These motors are awesome, we're to the point current vehicle designs are the limitting factor.
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I still need to gear up lol..


Yes the orion is slower.... But still
dude, my novak 13.5 with the standard sintered rotor and a 5 minute stock main on the motor and batts was almost as fast down the straight as an orion 10.5. :
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dude, my novak 13.5 with the standard sintered rotor and a 5 minute stock main on the motor and batts was almost as fast down the straight as an orion 10.5. :
When was this?
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billy let me and mike run the 19t main immediately after the stock main so we could finish our battle and see just how much run time you can get with BL. at about the 3 minute mark (8+ total minutes run time) my batteries started showing a little fade. i pulled the car a little after that when i broke a castor block.
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