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Old 12-13-2007, 03:04 PM   #511
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Weird. My LRP has never been above 145 degrees and that's with the timing bumped up to 6 degrees. I run on a failry tight track as well. I've also run it on a larger, flowing track and it runs even cooler. Maybe someone suckered you and sold you a bonded rotor.

OK, I've never messed with the timing on the LRP. Maybe I'll try bumping it a little. Should improve the top end right? Will it make more heat like a brushed motor would with more timing?
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Old 12-13-2007, 06:18 PM   #512
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I am more confused now than i was before reading this thread.With the mixing if manufactures motors and esc's,i'm not sure what to buy now.I want speed,power,and descent run times.I originally had my eye on the LRP or Novak,but very undecided now.
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Old 12-13-2007, 06:31 PM   #513
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I am more confused now than i was before reading this thread.With the mixing if manufactures motors and esc's,i'm not sure what to buy now.I want speed,power,and descent run times.I originally had my eye on the LRP or Novak,but very undecided now.
At the track where I race almost everyone uses a 13.5 Novak motor and the Novak or LRP speed control, you can't go wrong with this motor and either speed control.

However, in my opinion the Novak service is the best.
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Old 12-13-2007, 07:00 PM   #514
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Thanks Ted Flack.At my track there is only one driver with a BL system and that is the Novak 13.5 with lipo.It runs nice,but i do not know his temps and gearing etc.etc. I don't have anything to compare it to.
Back a page or two,someone mentioned the Orion 13.5 with the LRP esc.It seems that maybe the LRP is the speedo of choice regardless of motor.
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Old 12-14-2007, 02:03 AM   #515
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The LRP/Nosram are the speedos of choice locally and none of the guys have had any issues with them.
Most of the hassle local racers have had is overheating motors and breaking them in bad tumbles/accidents.
Id say 80% of problems guys experience is through thier own fault pushing the envelope or not being familiar enough with brushless.
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I own a TC5 and I just got a LRP TC spec with the Vector 13.5. I run on a 74 x 40 carpet track with rubber tires. The info that came with the 13.5 said to gear at 7.5 on a small track and 5.5 on a large track. Anybody run this combo at a similar track? Just need a starting point. I have a 116t spur on there now. I read some of the posts and everyone seems to go in the 5 range. Is that where I want to be?
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Hey Dave, I run mine around a 5.2 final drive. I'm running a sintered rotor. If your rotor is bonded, I'd back up on the final drive to around 7.0 and see what your temps do. The difference is huge between rotors. I'm not farmiliar with the TC5, but I have to run a 112 spur and mid 40s pinions on my Losi. Do the math, you may need to invest in some smaller spur gears too.

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Old 12-16-2007, 12:59 PM   #518
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I own a TC5 and I just got a LRP TC spec with the Vector 13.5. I run on a 74 x 40 carpet track with rubber tires. The info that came with the 13.5 said to gear at 7.5 on a small track and 5.5 on a large track. Anybody run this combo at a similar track? Just need a starting point. I have a 116t spur on there now. I read some of the posts and everyone seems to go in the 5 range. Is that where I want to be?
I'm running the exact same combo except a 2007 Sphere comp. First I'll say dont waste your time with the bonded rotor, go straight to the sintered. If you start with the bonded I'd start in the high 5's -6.0. Sintered I'm at 5.02 on a similar track, rubber on carpet. Thats about as far as you can go without running in heat issues. Forget about getting smoked, you'll be on par to better then the purple guys. I've only recently run into one purple 13.5 that out pulls me (down the straight only), but... he's also out pulling the other purple guys, so I'm not sure whats up there.
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Old 12-17-2007, 01:39 AM   #519
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so....has anyone tried to take the bearing out of the bottom of their novak 13.5 ss yet? Mine is all gritty and I have the bearing to replace it...but this thing is jammed in there like none other!

Should I put a dowel behind it and pop it into a vise....squeeze it out? or should it be that tight? how will I get the new one in there? Should I heat up the metal with a heat gun to expand it a hair or what?

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so....has anyone tried to take the bearing out of the bottom of their novak 13.5 ss yet? Mine is all gritty and I have the bearing to replace it...but this thing is jammed in there like none other!

Should I put a dowel behind it and pop it into a vise....squeeze it out? or should it be that tight? how will I get the new one in there? Should I heat up the metal with a heat gun to expand it a hair or what?

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Yeah mine is pretty bad too...but the endbell isnt expensive...

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hmm....I'm gonna stick it into a vise (spelling?) tonight after work and see if I can't press it out with a dowel...then press the new bearing back in...
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Yeah mine is pretty bad too...but the endbell isnt expensive...

http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...?&I=LXFTH2&P=7
That's the old SS endbell with the small bearing, don't get that one! Get the ribbed endbell, even if you don't have a ribbed can, it's machined out in the end and a bit lighter. http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...?&I=LXMGJ4&P=7

I replaced my bearings with some ceramics, and the one in the end bell came out easily. I heated it up a bit with a heat gun and then tapped the bearing out. The other one pushed in by hand. I've heard stories of guys needed to use a lot more trickery, but it was super easy for me.
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I got mine out today....it took come negotiation but I got it....I'll press a new one back in tonight.
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Old 12-17-2007, 08:54 PM   #524
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The one purple motor thats pulling on all the others may have the 14mm rotor in it.It makes a big difference.There is the stock rotor,the sentered rotor,and the New,14mm it works great! Great Job NOVAK! Whats next from the "ORANGE"!
And you can put it in any of the motors,3.5 and up.
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What 14mm rotor?! Do you mean 13mm?
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