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Old 11-16-2007, 08:26 PM   #376
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I find the LRP TC Spec has a smoother throttle feel than the GTB throughout the entire range. I'm not sure if you've run the new one X, but LRP got it really right this time around.

The GTB is great too, and in its defense, a few years old now. I'm sure Novak isn't standing idly by, and probably has an answer to it in the works.
I think all the brushless companies have stuff in the works and especially Novak and Castle since LRP just came out not long ago with the TC Spec.
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Old 11-17-2007, 10:38 PM   #377
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So boyz is the 13.5 equal to a brushed 19T motor or what? because it sure is'nt equal to a 27T stock motor at my local track ?"CAP CITY RC CENTER"!
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losi, our club passed a rule to put 13.5t in with 27t brushed in the Stock class. After six months of racing like that, and a big regional race that had a 13.5t class for the first time, there was tons of evidence that 13.5t is significantly faster than 27t, and in fact as fast as a pretty good 19t. So, a few weeks ago we moved 13.5t into our 19t class. Races have been incredibly fair since. It's also a good combination, because now if a guy wants to put lots of effort into his 19t brushed, he can have an advantage over a guy that does no work with a 13.5t.
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losi, our club passed a rule to put 13.5t in with 27t brushed in the Stock class. After six months of racing like that, and a big regional race that had a 13.5t class for the first time, there was tons of evidence that 13.5t is significantly faster than 19t, and in fact as fast as a pretty good 19t. So, a few weeks ago we moved 13.5t into our 19t class. Races have been incredibly fair since. It's also a good combination, because now if a guy wants to put lots of effort into his 19t brushed, he can have an advantage over a guy that does no work with a 13.5t.


did you type that right?
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Old 11-17-2007, 11:55 PM   #380
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did you type that right?
Yeah, the novak 13.5 with the new rotor are about as fast as a brushed 19T, easily.....
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Woops, no. Corrected.
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Old 11-18-2007, 05:43 AM   #382
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I race offroad with my Mamba system and have no problems with it at all. It has always worked flawlessly from day one and even in my touring car with the Orion 13.5 only has a small stutter but that will be changing really soon. I find the Mamba Max to be relaible and never ever thermals and I figure you can't win any races if my stuff thermals all the time. Last weekend 3 guys thermaled out of the 13 mod buggies they had.
Right, you wont thermal, just melt down of the rotor (or cracked) Id reather thermal, than lose my investment. The 3 guys thermaled in your race was probably do to user error. (wrong gearing)

By the way, " it worked flawlessly from day one and even with my touring car with an Orion 13.5 only has a small shutter" sorry bro, thats not flawless
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The 13.5 will be the new stock motor even though its faster then a 27T. Even if you wanted to run 15.5, 17.5 or 21.5 BL most cars today do not have enough room in them to hit the rear ratios you would need. Some barely can accomodate 13.5 gear ratios.
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Old 11-18-2007, 11:33 AM   #384
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Im geared at 78/28 and practice for 20-22 min and comes off both motor/speedo come off like 95 degree's.. LRP sphere/Novak 13.5! profile 6!
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Yeah, the novak 13.5 with the new rotor are about as fast as a brushed 19T, easily.....
At my track the 13.5 with Lipo is about as fast (not faster) as a very good
27t and a good NiMH pack. It seems that the Lipo is not as fast as a NiMh with a stock motor and the 13.5 makes them about the same.

I think the easy to run Lipo and easy to run 13.5 gives up a little to a guy that wants to work on motors and battery.

At the same track the 10.5 and Lipo is not as fast as a 19t and NiMh.

When you guys say the 13.5 is faster than a 27t are they both using the same type batteries? In 12th scale with the same type battery the 13.5 is way faster.
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At my track the 13.5 with Lipo is about as fast (not faster) as a very good
27t and a good NiMH pack. It seems that the Lipo is not as fast as a NiMh with a stock motor and the 13.5 makes them about the same.

I think the easy to run Lipo and easy to run 13.5 gives up a little to a guy that wants to work on motors and battery.

At the same track the 10.5 and Lipo is not as fast as a 19t and NiMh.

When you guys say the 13.5 is faster than a 27t are they both using the same type batteries? In 12th scale with the same type battery the 13.5 is way faster.
Well at my track, 13.5 with the new rotor and any batts (lipo or nimh) its about as fast as a brushed 19T
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Anybody saying a 13.5 is as fast as a 19T needs to fire their motor builder.
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At my track the 13.5 with Lipo is about as fast (not faster) as a very good
27t and a good NiMH pack. It seems that the Lipo is not as fast as a NiMh with a stock motor and the 13.5 makes them about the same.

I think the easy to run Lipo and easy to run 13.5 gives up a little to a guy that wants to work on motors and battery.

At the same track the 10.5 and Lipo is not as fast as a 19t and NiMh.

When you guys say the 13.5 is faster than a 27t are they both using the same type batteries? In 12th scale with the same type battery the 13.5 is way faster.
I've found the exact same thing to be true. A 13.5+LiPo is VERY close to a 27T+NiMH. I'm having to do all kinds of tricks to get my LiPo 13.5 car back up to where it's close to the NiMH 13.5's.

Anybody saying a 13.5 is as fast as a 19T needs to fire their motor builder. Even the 10.5 is slower than a good 19T. I think a 9.5 would probably be a better fit in 19T than 10.5.
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wow bring your ride to cap city rc center and get smoked.NO STOCK MOTOR compares no way .
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wow bring your ride to cap city rc center and get smoked.NO STOCK MOTOR compares no way .
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