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Novak vs LRP vs Orion brushless

Old 09-02-2007, 10:42 PM
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Originally Posted by UN4RACING View Post
Traitor. getting away from Novak.? I had a removable harness come off in a tie up in practice one night. Running the neo motor. Ya learn to tie wrap them good. I think the hardwire is more efficient, less connections, and wont come unplugged. I guess thats a little micro picky though.
Are you running that on a GTB.?
Na, not a traitor, I'm just exploring what else it out there. I enjoy the technology every bit as much as racing.

I'm running it on a GTB without any problems. The harness wires are pressed down pretty flat so hopefully there's no chance of them coming out.

I really like the build of the LRP motor, but their rotors seem kind of junky in comparison to Novak's. I also miss the nice solder tabs Novak uses in place of the holes.
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Old 09-02-2007, 10:45 PM
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I should have Orion's 13.5 next week, so I'll give it a go. I've been using LRP's lately, and really like the feel, it seems smoother than the Novak. I imagine Novak's motor will feel similar with the 13mm rotor, but haven't tried it yet. Now that I'm spoiled by a removable harness on the LRP, I don't really want to go back to the ugly old Novak and its rainbow of flavors. :-)[/QUOTE]

Novak is looking into the removable harness thing but....we are stuck with the "rainbow coalition" for now.
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Old 09-02-2007, 11:07 PM
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Originally Posted by syndr0me View Post
Na, not a traitor, I'm just exploring what else it out there. I enjoy the technology every bit as much as racing.

I'm running it on a GTB without any problems. The harness wires are pressed down pretty flat so hopefully there's no chance of them coming out.

I really like the build of the LRP motor, but their rotors seem kind of junky in comparison to Novak's. I also miss the nice solder tabs Novak uses in place of the holes.
Any resistance like the sintered.? And how long has it lasted so far.?
My neo the rotor started slipping on the shaft. That was weird.
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Old 09-02-2007, 11:57 PM
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Originally Posted by UN4RACING View Post
Any resistance like the sintered.? And how long has it lasted so far.?
My neo the rotor started slipping on the shaft. That was weird.
I'm running the 13.5 with a sintered rotor (purchased separately). It cogs WAY more than the Novak 13.5, both with the standard sintered rotor and the 13mm. I really, really like the way the LRP motor feels. It's got a lot of grunt out of the turns, but it seems like smoother grunt, so it's not as jerky. I definitely prefer its feel over the Novak. That said, I haven't tried Novak's 13.5 with the new 13mm rotor yet, and I suspect it's going to make the motor feel much like this LRP does.

If Novak goes to a removable harness, we can buy the ones offered by other companies and avoid the rainbow. Plus, the wires used in LRP and Orion's harness maintain their shape when you bend them, more like normal wires. This is nice when trying to keep them out of the way.

I can't say that the LRP motor is any faster or slower, though. I just believe it has a more natural feel. We'll see how it goes with the Orion. I'm looking forward to trying it, if nothing else, because of the sound it makes. :-)
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Old 09-03-2007, 02:35 AM
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Originally Posted by UN4RACING View Post
What about efficiency.?
Are the batteries draining any more or less.?
I have ran LRP with the NEO motors and it ran pretty cool, compared to the Novak the efficiency went to Novak.
The temps were terrible running Novak motors on the LRP Sphere ESC.
Yet the LRP with the NEO-3 was good. It ran cool.
My batteries,(lipos) when running the LRP vs. the GTB the LRP consistently drained the battery 10-15 mah's more per run. What did you guys encounter.?
Its because LRP has adjustable electronic timing that changes during throttle input. Thats why you have to back the timing on orion (feigao) motors or runtime will suffer badly. The timing on novak motors cant be adjusted easily as far as I know.
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Old 09-03-2007, 03:49 AM
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UN4RACING: i generally run 4.5s and Orion/Peak Platinum Packs. After a 5 minute run i consume about 2000-2500 mah of juice from my packs. When i run 3.5s, they get close to 3000mah. Reason for the range is essentially dependent on how aggressive is set my gearing and esc profile (i use an LRP TC Spec). voodoo will have to pitch in for his experience on efficiency for the Orion 4.5 .... i'm sure though they should be in just about the same range. the numbers quoted above are while running in a large EP asphalt track (23-25 lapper track depending on layout) with a gear range of 8.2-8.8 fdr for a 4.5 and 10.5-11.0 fdr for a 3.5.

have not seen efficiency as an issue with 4.5 and even 3.5 BL motors from LRP and Novak though as they dont ever come close draining out 4800 lipos. so as long as they are within the ranges i mentioned above, im happy.

I'm putting in around the same (2000-2500mah) after 5min heats. i gear a bit more agressively at around 7.6 - 8.2 on the Orion 4.5.
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Old 09-03-2007, 09:36 AM
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Originally Posted by syndr0me View Post
.....We'll see how it goes with the Orion. I'm looking forward to trying it, if nothing else, because of the sound it makes. :-)

hahahaha!!! same here ... i have to admit one reason im gonna try the otiron is coz of the sound it makes! cheap thrills ... what can i say?
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