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Old 08-05-2007, 10:44 AM   #1
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Hello folks, been a long time but heyho.....

Anyway, after selling up i got rid of all my gear. Recently got back into it and got hold of an orion advantage.

Now, i had one of these before (although it was when 3700's were the mutts nuts) but i can't for the love of god remember the settings.

The one i picked up is the new lipo ready 'carbon look' one not that it makes any difference.

So, enough of the jibberish. Could someone please help me out with the settings. I will be running ib4200's on a large-ish outdoor track (cotswolds for you UK folk) in 19t. Then on a small/medium indoor carpet track.

Is it worth charging using the peak charge thingy or just use standard - linear charge mode?

Thanks
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raving-monkey - Sorry I can't answer your question but here is a link to the instructions. On the same page they have setups but unfortunately they are for gp3300 and gp3700 batteries.
http://www.teamorion.com/FAQ/Advantage
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If you're charging IB4200"s, I believe they say to use a linear charge
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good to see you back raving monkey! I have two of those chargers. they're awesome. Just charge at 6 amps linear with a 3 mv cut off. Thats all you need to know! Be sure to put plenty of juice back into the 4200's though even if youre going to race next we. They have become pretty good at self dischargin even over a week. I know guys who race every weekend and have lost a cell even after putting 1500 back into tha batt at the end of a race day.

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Hy !


I use the same charger with the IB4200.

My settings are 5mV per cell, 50 Temp, and 5000mha max capacity.
Charge Current 5,5Amps. (recomended is between 5-6Amps).

Greetings...
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Hello folks, been a long time but heyho.....

Anyway, after selling up i got rid of all my gear. Recently got back into it and got hold of an orion advantage.

Now, i had one of these before (although it was when 3700's were the mutts nuts) but i can't for the love of god remember the settings.

The one i picked up is the new lipo ready 'carbon look' one not that it makes any difference.

So, enough of the jibberish. Could someone please help me out with the settings. I will be running ib4200's on a large-ish outdoor track (cotswolds for you UK folk) in 19t. Then on a small/medium indoor carpet track.

Is it worth charging using the peak charge thingy or just use standard - linear charge mode?

Thanks
Matt
Hi,

These are the correct settings for your Advantage Charger:
Charge Type: Linear
Cell Type: NiMh
Capacity: 5000 mah
Charge Rate: 6 amps
Peak Detect: 3mv/per cell

This is what our team drivers use with the IB4200WC cells.

Also, like posted above....you will want to store these batteries with 2000 mah.
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Hi,

These are the correct settings for your Advantage Charger:
Charge Type: Linear
Cell Type: NiMh
Capacity: 5000 mah
Charge Rate: 6 amps
Peak Detect: 3mv/per cell

This is what our team drivers use with the IB4200WC cells.

Also, like posted above....you will want to store these batteries with 2000 mah.
Hi,
can i use the above settings for IB3800 and GP3700 batt?
What does linear means? is it normal charging?
why do you set the capacity at 5000mah when your batt is 4200mah?
What capacity can i use for IB3800 and GP3700 batt?
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Hi,
can i use the above settings for IB3800 and GP3700 batt?
What does linear means? is it normal charging?
why do you set the capacity at 5000mah when your batt is 4200mah?
What capacity can i use for IB3800 and GP3700 batt?
Yes, the settings listed above will also be fine for IB3800/GP3700 batteries.

Yes, linear charge means the same as normal charging.

Most batteries will charge over their labeled mah. If you are using a IB4200 and set your mah to 4200, the charger will shut off once it reaches 4200 mah. Most of the time this wont be fully charged. New IB4200's take about 4500 mah. As long as you set your peak detect at 3mv/per cell, the charger will peak off once that is reached.

We set the capacity to 5000 for: GP3700,IB3800,IB4200,GP4300.

Hope this helps!
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Yes, the settings listed above will also be fine for IB3800/GP3700 batteries.

Yes, linear charge means the same as normal charging.

Most batteries will charge over their labeled mah. If you are using a IB4200 and set your mah to 4200, the charger will shut off once it reaches 4200 mah. Most of the time this wont be fully charged. New IB4200's take about 4500 mah. As long as you set your peak detect at 3mv/per cell, the charger will peak off once that is reached.

We set the capacity to 5000 for: GP3700,IB3800,IB4200,GP4300.

Hope this helps!
Wow! Thanks a lot. It really helps. No wonder my batt charge by advantage seems weaker compared to my general usage Tahmazo T15 charger.
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Also, like posted above....you will want to store these batteries with 2000 mah.
How do you store 2000mah to the batt? discharge them at 10A then set the capacity at 2000mah and charge at 6amp? then store them?
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You can discharge them down at 10 amps to 5.4 volts on the Advantage Charger. Then you can just recharge and unhook your battery when it gets to 2000 mah. Or you can set up your charger for 2000 mah. Whatever is easier for you. Yes, use the same charging method.
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Thanks guys.

Its all coming back to me now.....slowly

I bought the cells about, a good 4/5 week ago and built them but haven't charged them. Will they be FUBARed or will they be ok?

Oh and yes it is good to be back. Nothing worse than being to skint to go out on the piss on a saturday night....so go racing instead. Result

i'll put the settings into the charger and give it a whirl.

Thanks again
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You can discharge them down at 10 amps to 5.4 volts on the Advantage Charger. Then you can just recharge and unhook your battery when it gets to 2000 mah. Or you can set up your charger for 2000 mah. Whatever is easier for you. Yes, use the same charging method.
i dont think i saw anything instructions about discharging them to 5.4v
i have tried the discharge function but it seems to stop by itself, all i can set is to make it discharge at 10amps.
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The discharge function is already preset to 5.4 volts.
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The discharge function is already preset to 5.4 volts.
Thanks Joe for the replies. you are most helpful.
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