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Old 05-05-2003, 05:41 AM   #16
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Old 05-13-2003, 09:58 AM   #17
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I found some more pictures:

http://gekiradan.fc2web.com/1220/
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Old 05-13-2003, 10:05 AM   #18
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thats one sweet car. tamiya makes white springs.
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Old 05-13-2003, 10:09 AM   #19
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Yeah right but the Tamiya ones are allmost two times the diameter from
the 1/12 shockabsorber.
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Old 05-13-2003, 01:22 PM   #20
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Thanks Black Adder.

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So anybody have some info on the rear chassis brace?
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Old 05-13-2003, 01:57 PM   #21
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Actually, The Trinity Front-End and the newly released Speedmerchant V-Force front-ends are most definitely not AE Dynaic strut front-ends. I believe, but I may be mistaken, that the overall dimensions on the HPI chassis are identical to the now discontinued 12LC.

In my humble opinion, for 4-cell racing this is far from the ultimate 12th scale Pan Car.
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Old 05-13-2003, 02:25 PM   #22
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I agree for the V-Force front end but the Trinity front end was actually a prototype front end that was the base for
a molded front end that was just like Asso one but when the molded one came out Trinity just won a big race with
the prototype so everybody wanted the one with the upper links. Maybe its more adjustable like a pillow ball touring
car but it is not as consistent or pricise as a preset model (the same problem with a pillow ball touring car) and a lot
harder to work on.

Probably you are right that this car is not as good for high traction indoor racing but for (big) outdoor tracks you
can't beat this one or the also very fast Yokomo car.
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Old 05-14-2003, 08:54 AM   #23
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Actually the Trinity front-end is a modified version of the original EV-10/Revolver 12 front-end, in an attempt to make mor durable and easier to build the changed from the lower graphite beam, to the beam which spans the gap between the new molded lower arms. The basic desin of that front-end dates back to '91.

The Trinity front-end is more precise, more durable, and holds it settings far better than the Dynamic Strut. I have raced 1/12th for 15 years, and I can confidently say that only three front-ends reliably hold their settings after a stout whack, The V-Force, The Corally Beam, and The good Old fashioned AE sliding Kingpin/ OLD SKOOL.

The Trinity front-end, in my experience, while more difficult to set-up, still holds it's setting better than the AE. The AE Dynamic Strut has a tendency to give at the upper arm/tie rod junction, which throws off the camber, and the little teflon caster shims wear or get compressed as well. Not conducive to consistent caster settings. Their composite is a little suspect, which is why you almost always see the old white molded plastic parts on the team drivers' cars.
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Thanks for the info but I haven't any team drivers use the old white ones.
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CypressMidWest, if you are racing 15 years in 1/12 then could you know ho makes the rear chassis brace?

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If nobody can figure out the rear chassis brace, it propably started out as a bigger piece of CF, and then a dremel made it's way to it.
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Barry White: The rear chassis brace looks like a scaled down version of the brace Hpi used to make for the 10L, I'm not sure if they ever made it for the 12L or not. It might be a one-off for Hara's car. It also looks similar to a Trinity rear brace.

As for the front-end parts, Blackstock, Dumas, Delano, Baker, Orr and Lufaso all use the white front-end components for the Dynamic strut front-ends. At least they do at Cleveland, the Nationals and everyother Triple Crown race. I know a few of them occasionally dye the parts, but they still use the old Nylon parts rather than the new fiber impregnated pieces.
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Ok dyeing the parts. This is probably why I didn't see it.
What car do you have? Probably one with a Trinity front end .
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Actually I run a Speedmerchant Rev.3 with the AE Old Skool front-end. This carpet season I'll be running the V-force front-end though. It's really the coolest front-end out there right now, and it's hella durable.
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Is their a link for the V-Force front end.
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