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Old 07-17-2007, 09:44 AM   #31
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Joking around with Garrett, I finally came up with the noise comparison I was looking for:

Brushed Mod -- 500 MOTO GP

BL -- Vespa

Thats cold! I never thought I would see the day an electric guy really complained about the lack of noise. I thought that arguement was reserved for Nitro cats.
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Old 07-17-2007, 10:10 AM   #33
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I like the sound of the brushed mod motors. I usuallly attend the Reedy invitational at Tamiya to watch the factory guys . this year it was all brushless. althought the cars were faster, i lost interest and left early. For the racer it is great, less maintenance and faster car. for the spectator, it is snooz city. I also miss the torque of the brushed mods power sliding, slower by less spectacular.

Don't get me wrong, I run sportsman mod in oval velo racing w/ a 4.5 novak bl it is way faster than any brushed mod motor I have used. I would never run a brushed motor in mod.

time will tell about the direction of bl racing and tc racing in general.
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Old 07-17-2007, 10:25 AM   #34
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Seems like its time for the sanctioning bodies to let cross platform racing to occur. Li-po/brushless combos to race with nitros. The run time is possible, the speeds comparable and for those who need some noise, the nitros will provide the ROAR they are looking for.
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I like the sound of the brushed mod motors. I usuallly attend the Reedy invitational at Tamiya to watch the factory guys . this year it was all brushless. althought the cars were faster, i lost interest and left early. For the racer it is great, less maintenance and faster car. for the spectator, it is snooz city. I also miss the torque of the brushed mods power sliding, slower by less spectacular.

Don't get me wrong, I run sportsman mod in oval velo racing w/ a 4.5 novak bl it is way faster than any brushed mod motor I have used. I would never run a brushed motor in mod.

time will tell about the direction of bl racing and tc racing in general.
I couldn't make it to the Reedy this year, but that is exactly what I thought would happen.
Oh well, newer more enviromentaly friendly racing.

Ralph's Mt St Helens eruption at the nats was awsome, I never knew a speedo could hold so much smoke in it.
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I couldn't make it to the Reedy this year, but that is exactly what I thought would happen.
Oh well, newer more enviromentaly friendly racing.

Ralph's Mt St Helens eruption at the nats was awsome, I never knew a speedo could hold so much smoke in it.
The red and blue smoke from the melting wires of Ralph's smoke bomb added a cool effect. It was quite impressive.
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YES I do think that BL is killing mod I see less and less interset in Mod no days then there was 3 or 4 years ago.I couldn't agree more that watching mod now really sucks for the most part.YEAH sure they are somewhat faster but the low end power just isn't there it used really great watching and hearing some mod guys rip it out of corner now if you can hear anything its like a little buzzing noise.I race mod atleast untill recently in offroad on onroad but I stoped BL kind of killed it for me personally.
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YES I do think that BL is killing mod I see less and less interset in Mod no days then there was 3 or 4 years ago.I couldn't agree more that watching mod now really sucks for the most part.YEAH sure they are somewhat faster but the low end power just isn't there it used really great watching and hearing some mod guys rip it out of corner now if you can hear anything its like a little buzzing noise.I race mod atleast untill recently in offroad on onroad but I stoped BL kind of killed it for me personally.
Why didn't you just use brushed motors, then? Especially in off-road, it seems like brushed would do just fine.

I've heard some pretty backhanded ways of demeaning brushless motors (usually in favor of brushed) but this one might rule them all. :-\
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You know, if people didnt have something to bitch about, I think they would have back spasms. First, batteries didnt provide enough run time...NiMh and li-po solved that. Then it was "I do electric because I dont like the mess of nitro and maintennance of nitro", but cutting comms and all of the supporting gear was a pain. Brushless solved that. With brushless and li-po, not only do nitro cats have to give us some respect, they have to give us a LOT of respect..not good enough. Now you have electric dudes saying it's too quiet? If I didnt read it, I wouldnt believe it. I guess its because I race against nitros, it doesnt dawn on me, but, I do hear my car. It doesnt have the "F-15 sound" of brushed, but I'll take my whir anyday with the run times I get. And like Syndrome said, no one is stopping you from running brushed. You want more noise out of corners? Run a shaft car on brushless.
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Jeeze, what a bunch of lazy asses!

I wanna run BL so I don't have to work on my motor!

I wanna run lipo so I don't have to do anything but charge it!

Just about every manu has car setups online for damn near every track out there, you don't even have to experiment with set-up, just turn the page and try this one.

Next you will want rentals that are all set up and ready to go!

And you wonder why EP is fading?
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Bubb Rub recommends BL mod drivers add whistle tips.
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Why didn't you just use brushed motors, then? Especially in off-road, it seems like brushed would do just fine.

I've heard some pretty backhanded ways of demeaning brushless motors (usually in favor of brushed) but this one might rule them all. :-\
I not demeaning brushless as I still own two systems the topic is about what you feel BL is doing to mod.did i say don't run it no! SURE brushed would do just fine but why buy stuff that will be gone in a couple of years.But i don't really think brushless is the end all solution for us think what you want but believe me I WOULD love to see bl work out for everyone.
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Bubb Rub recommends BL mod drivers add whistle tips.
Your on the right track there.

No thrill like the whistle of an incoming mortor round, Yikes!
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On a different topic, CO, do you agree with the statement in your signature?
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i dont like brushless its taking more of the tuning out of the sport.
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