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Old 07-16-2007, 04:08 PM   #1
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Default 12th scale...WHY NOT POLULAR???

12th scale...WHY NOT POPULAR???

Most racers are diehards...we love to blame companies when they don't take care of us and/or when the cost of racing gets too high. Or for why a class weakens in popularity.

Why aren't we all racing 12th scale??? Many of the companies producing these cars can be contacted in person via email or phone, offer cheap(ER) kits, are simpler, and do not shellshock new racers with their complexity.

Just curious...as I have raced every class except for 12th since starting racing back in 2001. Is there something I do not know?
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Old 07-16-2007, 04:19 PM   #2
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During the winter months here in the midwest 1/12th scale is very popular. On a club day we get between 3 and 5 heats, from stock to mod.
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Actually, 12th scale is growing in popularity all across the country. I've run every electric powered class of RC racing, and if I were only allowed to race one class for the rest of my life, I'd choose 12th scale. The cars are simple, easy to work on, and NOTHING is faster on all but the biggest roadcourses. If you've got a class in your area, pick up a 12th scaler, (I recommend a CRC Gen. X), and get out there. You'll be surprised how much fun the "little cars" are to race.
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I love 12th scale but on the against side - are ridiculously temperamental when not set up correctly, are hard for a newbie to setup correctly and need to have heaps of traction for them to be fun... or there are more donuts than in a cop station on a monday morning...

but i love the whole complexity and setup stuff
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i would love to see 1/12th get bigger.i always have the most fun when running 1/12th
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I prefer TCs over 12ths because TCs have a lot more setup options.
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I prefer TCs over 12ths because TCs have a lot more setup options.
Funny, but I know a few people who hate TC for the same reason. Too many things to worry about.

Big advantage 12th has, much cheaper!!! You save money on batteries (4 vs. 6 cell) and everything on the car is half what the TC equivalent is.
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I prefer TCs over 12ths because TCs have a lot more setup options.
you must not run 1/12. a .010" shim under the front shock is an amazing change. there is more adjustment on a 1/12 then on a tc.
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you must not run 1/12. a .010" shim under the front shock is an amazing change. there is more adjustment on a 1/12 then on a tc.
I agree put a shim on the front axles and itll change how the car feels
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1/12th scale fo Life!!!
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Some BIG race promoters limit the amount of 1/12th scale entries and thereby discourage 1/12th scale as a class because the heats are 8 minutes instead of the 5 minute heats of TC. That is pretty sad.

1/12th scale is the ONLY class that my home track races during the winter months, and it is very popular.
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also here, in Victoria BC Canada. that is all we race during the winter months. There a blast to drive. easy to work on.
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As an average racer from the average club I thought I would like the simplicity of 1/12 sacle but I quickly found out that unless everything was perfectly tuned, trued, and balanced it was a chore to drive.

Maybe it's just me, but it was even harder to keep dialed than a touring car. And its handling changed dramatically from the first minute compared to the end. I wont say touring cars are better, but they are more forgiving.

It was also dissapointing that we were told it would keep costs down and then everyone went out and bought $285+ kits. And rear tires wore out just as quick on my 1/12 scale as they did my touring car.

I have a lot respect for anyone who can set up and drive them well, they are just not for me.
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As an average racer from the average club I thought I would like the simplicity of 1/12 sacle but I quickly found out that unless everything was perfectly tuned, trued, and balanced it was a chore to drive.

Maybe it's just me, but it was even harder to keep dialed than a touring car. And its handling changed dramatically from the first minute compared to the end. I wont say touring cars are better, but they are more forgiving.

It was also dissapointing that we were told it would keep costs down and then everyone went out and bought $285+ kits. And rear tires wore out just as quick on my 1/12 scale as they did my touring car.

I have a lot respect for anyone who can set up and drive them well, they are just not for me.
at our track, we have not found that to be true. as far as tire wear, I usually run mine for 3-4 month. now I do start them out quite large (49mm rears) but that is just me. as for cost, we just don't see the cost in parts, car or replacements to be as high as tc. i find that hard to believe that 1/12 cost as much as tc.
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As an average racer from the average club I thought I would like the simplicity of 1/12 sacle but I quickly found out that unless everything was perfectly tuned, trued, and balanced it was a chore to drive.

Maybe it's just me, but it was even harder to keep dialed than a touring car. And its handling changed dramatically from the first minute compared to the end. I wont say touring cars are better, but they are more forgiving.

It was also dissapointing that we were told it would keep costs down and then everyone went out and bought $285+ kits. And rear tires wore out just as quick on my 1/12 scale as they did my touring car.

I have a lot respect for anyone who can set up and drive them well, they are just not for me.
Wow, I've always found 12th scale way easier to manage than TC. With a 12th scaler most of the work I do at a club race involves rotating tires, and checking the tweak. You do have to make sure that things are mainatined, but, with about 1/3rd the number of moving parts it's a whole lot shorter process than maintaining a TC. 12th scalers are usually more durable too.

Also a $285 12th scaler is far less expensive than a $400+TC. Plus 4-cell packs are cheaper, motors last longer, bodies are cheaper, replacement parts are cheaper, (unless you own a Corally 12th scaler). Plus if you buy a $285 12thscaler, about the only additional hop-up you'd need would be the IRS ride-height adjusters. I race both and 12th scale is far cheaper if you're looking to race competitively.
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