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Old 07-17-2007, 10:41 PM   #31
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Mini racing is fun...but it isn't pan cars Love my pan cars
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Old 07-17-2007, 11:00 PM   #32
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12th scale at BCR is continuing to grow, slowly, but growing.. .

I wish the 18r's would take off, now that is a great class. Modified 18r's are just as fast as TC Foam Mod. . $160.00 with $100.00 upgrade and you capable of running in the TC Foam class. But Skillz are required.
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Love or hate 12th its got an up hill battle against the RTR market and the strangle hold TC racing has.
12th doesn't compete with this market. The battle has already been 'won', to the extent that 12th can live with the feed it currently gets from other classes, and it keeps going because when people come from another class, they are already hooked on RC, and they tend to stay.

12th is intense and laid back at the same time. People who are dedicated to RC and join 12th choose which way they take the class, and are able to do either.

These are the only explanations I can see for why 12th survives, but Pro-10 and F1 has come, and gone. 12th doesn't seem to follow any 'rules' about what is in the shops, where cars can be run, or how easy/difficult it is to set up - 12th just is, and has been for over 30 years.
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I think 1/12 is plenty popular right now and keeps getting bigger look at Cleveland their are 4 different classes of 1/12 that all have ABCD or more mains
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I don't want to say it....but if some company make/start TC bodies that will work on the current 12th scale pan car...it will be popular. (happened multiple times with nascar bodies and truck series bodies within the last 15-20years time span..)
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I don't want to say it....but if some company make/start TC bodies that will work on the current 12th scale pan car...it will be popular. (happened multiple times with nascar bodies and truck series bodies within the last 15-20years time span..)
Why ruin a good class? Both examples you cite (NASCAB and pick-em-ups) have come and GONE (thankfully) as brief flashes in the three-plus decades that is 1/12. And TC bodies? Puh-leeze. If we wanted Taxi Cabs we'd be racing, well, T(axi) C(ab). Prototypes have always been the core of 1/12 and how much more popular does it really need to be? You want to talk manufacturer support? I'd bet there are a dozen different manufacturers (probably more) that have had cars in the 'A' at various national championship events around the globe the last year or two. How many TC's can say the same thing? How many "legitimate" TC manufacturers are there even? I guarantee a scant fraction of who all's building 1/12 cars that are genuinely competitive.

And how much simpler can it be? I remove ONE 8-32 nut and loosen one 4-40 cap screw and suddenly I have access to all my rear wheel bearings AND my diff bearings. A single 4-40 nut on either side and I've got my front bearings out. I can have 'em ALL serviced and re-installed in less than the time it took to do wheel bearings at two corners on my TCs. Fuggedabout the diff bearings.

Plus I can be a total moron and break something...if it takes more than 3-4 easy to get at screws to fix it's unusual. I don't think there's anything that I'd actually have to touch 6 screws to fix, 'least not that gets broken. I can build a new CRC car in the time it used to take me to fix something down inside the TC like a diff outdrive cup, or whatever.

In short, someone on another thread best summed up 1/12. Why has it lasted so long and been so popular among those who pursue the passion? BECAUSE YOU WEREN'T THERE TO SCREW IT UP!!

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In short, someone on another thread best summed up 1/12. Why has it lasted so long and been so popular among those who pursue the passion? BECAUSE YOU WEREN'T THERE TO SCREW IT UP!!

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i would love to see 1/12th get bigger.i always have the most fun when running 1/12th
If 1/12th got bigger... would'nt it just be 1/10th?? jk jk
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honestly,i feel 1/12th is difficult to alot of people because they require a good setup and accurate setup.i am not bashing here,i am just pointing this out.in TC you can get away with a setup that is not so good because you have the front wheels to pull the car into check.this will allow the car to still be drivable.if we had a way to educate people on car set up they would accel at 1/12th and enjoy it alot more.it is far less complicated than TC and the cars handle better also.
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If 1/12th got bigger... would'nt it just be 1/10th?? jk jk
I thought the exact same thing when I opened this thread. I've only seen 12s run once and they were fast, that was 10+ years ago.
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If 1/12th got bigger... wouldn't it just be 1/10th?? jk jk
or 1/8th, depends on how much bigger you want to make them
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If 1/12th got bigger... would'nt it just be 1/10th?? jk jk
1/10 Pan...ahh...possibly the only class that could make me give up my 1/12 cars. I LOVED that class.
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Locally as the price of TC's have gone up 12th scale has gained popularity. Many race days 12th's out number TC's now. It's the original electric class and I hope it's always an IFMAR title.
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