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Old 07-13-2007, 09:00 PM   #46
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Very interesting thread. I believe I may be the type of guy who this is targeted at. I have been in this hobby for a long time. However, I have yet to race. I get to the track at about once a month, twice if I'm lucky and my driving are OK at best. When I go to the track I usually am there to just practice and I like being on the track with guys with similar driving skills. However I fell awkward driving with guys who's skills are less than mine, and some of the fast guys don't have the consideration for the slower guys and run you off the track. If we had this breakout out class I would definitely race in it. Once my racing skills (which are MUCH different that running practice laps) where up to par I'd gladly move up. This type of class would probably get me to the track more often also.
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Old 07-14-2007, 05:06 AM   #47
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I think it could do for some clubs, but there is not (and never will be) 1 definitive answer for why clubs are closing.

A lot of factors can decide where I race, and thats been the same way for me for 13 or so years.

1) people who are good to chat and race with (people who talk smack and are hacks are not worth the membership and booking in fee)

2) location - I will travel wherever I can get to, but its usually within 2 hours drive.

3) challenge - Everyone likes racing, but it has to be kept interesting for me to keep going back.

4) life outside racing - family,friends,work commitments all play a part too.

5) racing isnt racing unless its FUN!!!!!!

These are just 5 reasons I can think of but no doubt there are more. Thats why even at new racer level breakout classes are not the definitive answer.
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Old 07-14-2007, 06:43 AM   #48
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i go racing to race other racers with the same spec equipment to try & beat them on a level ground (if poss

but if there are to many class's to particapated in that just dilute's the field your racing against & so winning the class make's it feel empty really

and since equipment you buy determine's which class you go in means you can't shift from one class to another when `YOU` feel like it

ie;;UK run's 5 cell/mod outside (lovely speed & all
so 19t & 27t indoors & outdoors are 6 cell
so even indoors there are only 6 cell/27t going

very hard to transition from one class to another (with out spending money

racers don't really mind spending money on this hobby .aslong as they feel they are getting the `MONEY'S WORTH` out of the gadjet/racing they are happy to spend the money, but if it's means it sit's there on shelf for the next national in a month's time (once used)

It's swings & roundabouts
not going to be a simple answer ,but there is a really nice reciepe out there with all these gadjet's to make racing work on track & keep racer's in & take up the hobby

Just finding that reciepe is the `Bugger`
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Old 07-15-2007, 08:18 PM   #49
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InspGadgt and others...

I think one of the problems with topics on some of these forums is that when people bring up ideas - other people always seem to assume this is something being proposed for THIER class, when all too often it's being aimed at classes for NEWBIES or Less Experienced people in a lot of cases..and really wouldn't affect 90+ % of the people who leave negative comments.

To WIN a breakout class - you have to WIN iT based on the rules set forth in the class. If you go faster than those rules - than you don't belong in that class.

Some guys choose to run in breakout classes, even though they have been racing for years... WHY? Because they can get a setup that won't quite breakout w/o having to work nearly as hard as running a HOT CLASS...and they can do it w/ OLD equipment. Thus making the racing a little less work and headache...and making it a little more FUN.

I guess you'd says it's like "Different strokes for different folks" NOT EVERYONE races to go the fastest the can possibly go - some race to have a good friendly competition with friends...and enjoy this hobby.
Ding, ding, ding!!! We have a winner!

That is exactly the reason that I sometimes run in our breakout class on oval. It's extremely low maintenance, all I do is recharge the battery (I don't discharge, just bump it again) and I can use equipment that I would never put in my REAL race car. And, I've got all the time in the world to hang out with my friends and just have FUN!

To me, the breakout class just put the fun back into racing and removed all the stress of tweaking that final .01 on the lap times. Almost any car, any motor and any battery can win. Money doesn't help much at all.
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i go racing to race other racers with the same spec equipment to try & beat them on a level ground (if poss

but if there are to many class's to particapated in that just dilute's the field your racing against & so winning the class make's it feel empty really


Just finding that reciepe is the `Bugger`
Likewise. Thats what I like about stock. Its all close at any level. Get a few people on the same level as you and its all good close racing.

I feel a bit disorentated when the racing is too diluted when there isnt enough racers for their motor class. But I do understand from a clubs point of view as to what should they do because of this? It would be crazy to turn them away!
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