JACO Premounted Tires
07-12-2007, 08:23 AM
#46
Originally Posted by THE DARKSIDE
Let me know how that works for you.
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SoCalMitch....if every racer had your mentality, you'd be racing in your driveway with your RP30's because every track has closed.
07-12-2007, 08:31 AM
#47
Not trying to be harsh, trying to be humorous...
"What is right" isn't necessarily just what's best for you... that's called "what is selfish".
If you consider others too, you might conclude it's better to buy something made locally and pay a little more. After all, many of those folks built the industry and the tracks.
Real example: when you buy overseas product then your local company goes out of business and you have to find a cheap job with no benefits - happens all the time around here.
If your local business also supports tracks, and you lose your local track ... well for me that turns an hour round trip, 40 miles and $6.00 in gas... into a trip to the next closest track... that's a 6 hour round trip, 414 miles and $55.78 in gas. Would add almost $2,000 a year to my gasoline bill alone, not to mention deprec, repairs etc... then I might quit, there goes another racer....
I have a choice where to spend my cash. I like to support the people and companies of my choice, and the +/-10% to me just doesn't matter that much because people are more important than money. If I have to, I'll just buy less and make do.
"What is right" isn't necessarily just what's best for you... that's called "what is selfish".
If you consider others too, you might conclude it's better to buy something made locally and pay a little more. After all, many of those folks built the industry and the tracks.
Real example: when you buy overseas product then your local company goes out of business and you have to find a cheap job with no benefits - happens all the time around here.
If your local business also supports tracks, and you lose your local track ... well for me that turns an hour round trip, 40 miles and $6.00 in gas... into a trip to the next closest track... that's a 6 hour round trip, 414 miles and $55.78 in gas. Would add almost $2,000 a year to my gasoline bill alone, not to mention deprec, repairs etc... then I might quit, there goes another racer....
I have a choice where to spend my cash. I like to support the people and companies of my choice, and the +/-10% to me just doesn't matter that much because people are more important than money. If I have to, I'll just buy less and make do.
07-12-2007, 08:46 AM
#48
Originally Posted by swopemike
Not trying to be harsh, trying to be humorous...
"What is right" isn't necessarily just what's best for you... that's called "what is selfish".
If you consider others too, you might conclude it's better to buy something made locally and pay a little more. After all, many of those folks built the industry and the tracks.
Real example: when you buy overseas product then your local company goes out of business and you have to find a cheap job with no benefits - happens all the time around here.
If your local business also supports tracks, and you lose your local track ... well for me that turns an hour round trip, 40 miles and $6.00 in gas... into a trip to the next closest track... that's a 6 hour round trip, 414 miles and $55.78 in gas. Would add almost $2,000 a year to my gasoline bill alone, not to mention deprec, repairs etc... then I might quit, there goes another racer....
I have a choice where to spend my cash. I like to support the people and companies of my choice, and the +/-10% to me just doesn't matter that much because people are more important than money. If I have to, I'll just buy less and make do.
"What is right" isn't necessarily just what's best for you... that's called "what is selfish".
If you consider others too, you might conclude it's better to buy something made locally and pay a little more. After all, many of those folks built the industry and the tracks.
Real example: when you buy overseas product then your local company goes out of business and you have to find a cheap job with no benefits - happens all the time around here.
If your local business also supports tracks, and you lose your local track ... well for me that turns an hour round trip, 40 miles and $6.00 in gas... into a trip to the next closest track... that's a 6 hour round trip, 414 miles and $55.78 in gas. Would add almost $2,000 a year to my gasoline bill alone, not to mention deprec, repairs etc... then I might quit, there goes another racer....
I have a choice where to spend my cash. I like to support the people and companies of my choice, and the +/-10% to me just doesn't matter that much because people are more important than money. If I have to, I'll just buy less and make do.
I would rather pay my extra $10 to my LHS than import them in - why - b/c i want a place where i can race and buy my parts from. I also live 50 miles from my local track - it costs me $10 in gas everytime i go - but i still have a place to race!
Mitch, have fun driving and spending a boat load in gas getting to your non-local track......
Oh yeah - check out what the MSRP is on the kit your run - and then see if you paid list price. These tires JUST came out - so once the distribution is there - the street price should be around what all the other tires are selling for....$30-35
07-12-2007, 08:47 AM
#49
That whole track distance thing is lost on me, when one track closed the next one opened up 5 minutes away from my house. So by me not supporting a bad business I save money on parts and travel. It's a win win situation.
SoCal was 25 miles away, new track 5 miles away.
I wish I could run a tire for 2-4 weeks try 2-4 runs, running Modified on asphalt eats tires real quick.
SoCal was 25 miles away, new track 5 miles away.
I wish I could run a tire for 2-4 weeks try 2-4 runs, running Modified on asphalt eats tires real quick.
07-12-2007, 08:55 AM
#50
Originally Posted by SoCalMitch
That whole track distance thing is lost on me, when one track closed the next one opened up 5 minutes away from my house. So by me not supporting a bad business I save money on parts and travel. It's a win win situation.
07-12-2007, 09:12 AM
#51
Originally Posted by Mr. McGoo
Great example on the gas. People will buy 25 sets of tires from Hong Kong - just to save about $10 a set. For me, rubber tires on carpet are lasting me a good 4-6 weeks, on asphalt it might be closer to 2-4 weeks of racing.
Seriously though, where in the world do you get 4 weeks of racing on asphalt on one set of tires. Casue it would probably be cheaper to move there than to continue racing here.
07-12-2007, 09:18 AM
#52
Originally Posted by L.Fairtrace
When you dont go fast enough to get the tires hot they must last longer or something. Seriously though, where in the world do you get 4 weeks of racing on asphalt on one set of tires. Casue it would probably be cheaper to move there than to continue racing here.
Seriously though, where in the world do you get 4 weeks of racing on asphalt on one set of tires. Casue it would probably be cheaper to move there than to continue racing here. I might have overstated that - i have only raced a few times on asphalt - and i have reused "old" tires and been fine - so it would be closer to 2 weeks.....
07-12-2007, 09:21 AM
#53
Lets do the math on 4 weeks of racing,
4 Practice runs
3 Qualifiers
1 Main
8 total runs per race day
I race six times a month so that 48 runs on a set of tires! Wow I think I would be riding on the insert by the end the month.
4 Practice runs
3 Qualifiers
1 Main
8 total runs per race day
I race six times a month so that 48 runs on a set of tires! Wow I think I would be riding on the insert by the end the month.
07-12-2007, 09:31 AM
#54
2-4 weeks on a set of RP30s? what you using for traction compound super super duper paragon? 
If you can run RP30s, which are generally speaking 3 run tires, for 2 weeks you're either racing against yourself or you're just not racing at all. I know Mitch and I also know the guys he races against they are all factory team drivers and the competition is extremely fierce the TQ and Win last week went to Ryan Cavaleri and the names for the rest of that field are equally recognizable. He really does need all of those tires!!!!!!!!
While I appreciate that everyone has to make a buck, we also happen to race with the pro mod team drivers and we know that RP30s go out the door for $25 a set. Now if someone came to you and said I need 25 sets you would think you would give him a bulk purchase discount given that you want this guy buying his 25 sets from you every month.........but NO everyone has to be greedy and god forbid you discount for bulk frequent purchases.
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All you guys who wanna run pro mod with your 15-30 run RP30s welcome, if you can prove that your RP30s have more than 10 runs on them you are tech exempt
If you can run RP30s, which are generally speaking 3 run tires, for 2 weeks you're either racing against yourself or you're just not racing at all. I know Mitch and I also know the guys he races against they are all factory team drivers and the competition is extremely fierce the TQ and Win last week went to Ryan Cavaleri and the names for the rest of that field are equally recognizable. He really does need all of those tires!!!!!!!!
While I appreciate that everyone has to make a buck, we also happen to race with the pro mod team drivers and we know that RP30s go out the door for $25 a set. Now if someone came to you and said I need 25 sets you would think you would give him a bulk purchase discount given that you want this guy buying his 25 sets from you every month.........but NO everyone has to be greedy and god forbid you discount for bulk frequent purchases.
Quick Plug for Raff Summer Slam (Mini Reedy Race) TC Asphalt, One day event.
Trophy Race 8/18/07 @ Bending Corners Asphalt track
- BIG TROPHIES Wanna see them? check out http://bcraceways.smugmug.com later tonight
- Sexy Trophy girls - wanna see them? check out http://bcraceways.smugmug.com
- Spec Tires - wanna see which ones? check out . . . . . . . .
- Fast track layout - wanna see? check out. . . . . . .
and more info being confirmed everyday!!!!
Current event sponsors: AE, JAF, Kyosho, The Graham, RETCA, Schumacher and more to come.
INVITATIONAL DRIVER LIST: Ryan Cavaleri is coming and you know if he's racing, HPI, Schumacher, Kyosho, X-Ray, Losi and the others will be adding their big guns also.
MARK YOUR CALENDARS, AS THIS AUGUST IS GOING TO BE REALLY HOTT AT BCR!
All you guys who wanna run pro mod with your 15-30 run RP30s welcome, if you can prove that your RP30s have more than 10 runs on them you are tech exempt
Last edited by GCracker; 07-12-2007 at 10:36 AM.
07-12-2007, 11:19 AM
#55
GCracker you have a PM. I wanted to find out more about the track you are at.
07-12-2007, 11:25 AM
#56
Originally Posted by SoCalMitch
That whole track distance thing is lost on me, when one track closed the next one opened up 5 minutes away from my house. So by me not supporting a bad business I save money on parts and travel. It's a win win situation.
SoCal was 25 miles away, new track 5 miles away.
I wish I could run a tire for 2-4 weeks try 2-4 runs, running Modified on asphalt eats tires real quick.
SoCal was 25 miles away, new track 5 miles away.
I wish I could run a tire for 2-4 weeks try 2-4 runs, running Modified on asphalt eats tires real quick.
You may have no idea how blessed you are. The nearest track other than our local track is over 200 miles away. We got 64 entries for our states race and that was in a state with less than 2 million people... it was partly because it's the only track around, although 70% of the entries are within about 1/2 hour drive. And it takes a great deal of work and money to set up a track, so if you lose one it's harder to start another than keep the one you have. You really have it good if you have a track 5 minutes from home. There are only a few dozen tracks in the whole country that I'm aware of... I bet some people on here can probably name almost all of them. Some people drive 2 hours to 5 hours, minimum, every weekend for the privelege. I'd say 90% of us don't have that luxury of losing 1 local track and gaining another. You shouldn't base your thought process on that - it's just not typical.
07-12-2007, 11:39 AM
#57
Originally Posted by Elboogie
GCracker you have a PM. I wanted to find out more about the track you are at.
07-12-2007, 11:49 AM
#58
Originally Posted by swopemike
I assume you're just being sarcastic. Otherwise your comments don't make sense ... unless you have no idea how the rest of the country does R/C.
You may have no idea how blessed you are. The nearest track other than our local track is over 200 miles away. We got 64 entries for our states race and that was in a state with less than 2 million people... it was partly because it's the only track around, although 70% of the entries are within about 1/2 hour drive. And it takes a great deal of work and money to set up a track, so if you lose one it's harder to start another than keep the one you have. You really have it good if you have a track 5 minutes from home. There are only a few dozen tracks in the whole country that I'm aware of... I bet some people on here can probably name almost all of them. Some people drive 2 hours to 5 hours, minimum, every weekend for the privelege. I'd say 90% of us don't have that luxury of losing 1 local track and gaining another. You shouldn't base your thought process on that - it's just not typical.
You may have no idea how blessed you are. The nearest track other than our local track is over 200 miles away. We got 64 entries for our states race and that was in a state with less than 2 million people... it was partly because it's the only track around, although 70% of the entries are within about 1/2 hour drive. And it takes a great deal of work and money to set up a track, so if you lose one it's harder to start another than keep the one you have. You really have it good if you have a track 5 minutes from home. There are only a few dozen tracks in the whole country that I'm aware of... I bet some people on here can probably name almost all of them. Some people drive 2 hours to 5 hours, minimum, every weekend for the privelege. I'd say 90% of us don't have that luxury of losing 1 local track and gaining another. You shouldn't base your thought process on that - it's just not typical.
07-12-2007, 07:16 PM
#59
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Originally Posted by L.Fairtrace
When you dont go fast enough to get the tires hot they must last longer or something. Seriously though, where in the world do you get 4 weeks of racing on asphalt on one set of tires. Casue it would probably be cheaper to move there than to continue racing here.
Seriously though, where in the world do you get 4 weeks of racing on asphalt on one set of tires. Casue it would probably be cheaper to move there than to continue racing here.
