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Old 07-14-2007, 12:25 PM   #106
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The Novak Motor is faster overall in the 10.5 range.
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i fealt that the vortex was faster than my novakbut im still not saying its concrete just my findings on the intial comparison
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Old 07-14-2007, 04:23 PM   #108
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if anyone cares, i was on the phone ealier this week with orion. i was requesting information regarding the vortex 3.5 motor, heres what i got. speeds are identical to the novak 3.5 and the lrp 3.5. Operating temps are safe up to 190 degrees and lastly the KV on the 3.5 is a touch over 8,500.. this is where i get confused, the rep told me the speeds are identical to the novak 3.5, but novak advertises there KV at 10,500 unloaded. So if the speeds are identical that would mean that the vortex 8,500 number should be loaded number.
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Old 07-14-2007, 04:53 PM   #109
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Does Orion claim in writing somewhere that their brushless motors are "equivalent" to 27t or 19t brushed motors? That's what our club rules require for a BL motor to be eligible for our spec classes.
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yes they do claim to be legal with the rest of the motors
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Old 07-14-2007, 06:50 PM   #111
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does anyone run the vortex with a mamba setup im just curious to how it performs
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Old 07-14-2007, 07:13 PM   #112
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i do, it runs just like any other unsensored motor, you get a little cogging, but over all it works with it with no problem.
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Old 07-14-2007, 08:26 PM   #113
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Has anyone found out if Orion is going to have a motor replacement program?

I have found the Vortex 10.5 a bit faster than the Novak. Has more torque and with a little timing increase is wicked fast on a large track.
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i have a couple of questions i have a 4.5 orion it doesnt have that vortex sticker around the middle which motor is newer also i ran on a big track today with a gearing of 6.2 and the timing was turned up to the second notch but down the straight it felt like a sttock car but in the middle it was not to bad but still a little dead can any1 explain this to me plz????
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i have a couple of questions i have a 4.5 orion it doesnt have that vortex sticker around the middle which motor is newer also i ran on a big track today with a gearing of 6.2 and the timing was turned up to the second notch but down the straight it felt like a sttock car but in the middle it was not to bad but still a little dead can any1 explain this to me plz????
newer and old version are the same motor.. newer version has no sticker in the middle of the motor.
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i have a couple of questions i have a 4.5 orion it doesnt have that vortex sticker around the middle which motor is newer also i ran on a big track today with a gearing of 6.2 and the timing was turned up to the second notch but down the straight it felt like a sttock car but in the middle it was not to bad but still a little dead can any1 explain this to me plz????
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That's a pretty tall gear ratio... What track were you at? Were you runing 6 cell? With original timing set, I would have thought 7.5 to 8 (large track + 6 cell) would have been nearer to the mark... might explain the sluggishness…
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i have a couple of questions i have a 4.5 orion it doesnt have that vortex sticker around the middle which motor is newer also i ran on a big track today with a gearing of 6.2 and the timing was turned up to the second notch but down the straight it felt like a sttock car but in the middle it was not to bad but still a little dead can any1 explain this to me plz????
go back to the stock timing of zero , i found that the motor runs the best at stock timing
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i have a couple of questions i have a 4.5 orion it doesnt have that vortex sticker around the middle which motor is newer also i ran on a big track today with a gearing of 6.2 and the timing was turned up to the second notch but down the straight it felt like a sttock car but in the middle it was not to bad but still a little dead can any1 explain this to me plz????
Looks like you overgeared it. Large track with 5-cell should be around 7.
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Old 07-23-2007, 03:40 AM   #119
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Hey guys gearing question, I just bought a Orion 10.5 BL motor I plan to use this in 4-cell 1/12th roadcourse how should I gear this motor on a 100x50 track with a 1.78 rear tire?
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anybody know the temp range for the 10.5? was running mine the other day all the way down to 5.05fdr with 6-cell nimh and the temp would be only around 145degF. can i gear down more?

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