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Old 09-26-2008, 10:45 AM   #646
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so what would you recomend me to get , 3.5 new version or 3.5 old version.
But if it has litle less torque does it mean i have to have a smaller pinion gear.And how many more rpm does it have.Finally how many more minutes runtime does it have with the same bateries and same electronic but just the newer or older motor as you said less cumsomption.
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Old 09-26-2008, 03:08 PM   #647
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I'm sure it is possible to make them fit the older motors (if you are prepared to do enough machining modifications), but surely it would be easier to just fit either a Speed Passion or GM rotor - which are a direct fit into the older Orion motor.
Yeah, i know i can fit thoser rotors, but they dont say what is which size & so on. i was looking at the speed passion ones but it got too confusing which one was which size, etc...

Im purchasing a new vortex motor anyway, so i just wanna find out for myself if the new vortex rotor is a direct fit into the old vortex motor. I dont see a problem with it, apart from being a little shorter than the older version. rotor shaft should fit straight through the front endbell hole with ease, if not i can just drill the hole bigger. Unsure about the rear bearing housing though, whether the shaft will fit through that or not...
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Old 09-27-2008, 03:56 AM   #648
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wich 3.5 vortex is better, wich one would you guys recomend me :

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/TEAM-ORION-VOR...d=p3286.c0.m14

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http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ORION-Vortex-3...d=p3286.c0.m14
the one above but in 3.5 instead of 3.0.
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Old 09-27-2008, 01:18 PM   #649
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Today tested 4 armatures ,
4 pcs same had bester than STD armature !!

STD not have torque had more rpm,
but changed type 1 & 2 RPM type , turn armature had get magnet feel like high turn brushed motor feel .
& tested in big track can gear up same with torque !

after tested Torque type 3 & 4 , same bester than std armature,
the punch feel is very direct !

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Old 09-28-2008, 06:56 AM   #650
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sorry if this was asked before but is 150 to 160 deg F a safe temp range for the 1st gen orion vortex 4.5 brushless motor? i ran several 7 minute offroad practice sessions with my durga. do i need a cooling fan for the motor? my mamba max esc was also in the 150 to 160 deg F range. the buggy ran fine throughout the day, but i really dont know what temp range i should be looking at when using this motor. thanks in advance for any info
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sorry if this was asked before but is 150 to 160 deg F a safe temp range for the 1st gen orion vortex 4.5 brushless motor? i ran several 7 minute offroad practice sessions with my durga. do i need a cooling fan for the motor? my mamba max esc was also in the 150 to 160 deg F range. the buggy ran fine throughout the day, but i really dont know what temp range i should be looking at when using this motor. thanks in advance for any info
not an expert...but 160 is the most I will go after a 5 minute qualifier. If you use 7 minutes most time at not more than 160 I would say perfect.
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wow... so far i was doing 180+degF with 5min runs (Orion 2008 4.0)... and someone was hitting 200degF!
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wow... so far i was doing 180+degF with 5min runs (Orion 2008 4.0)... and someone was hitting 200degF!
how many deg C ?
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thanks for the replies re. motor temp
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how many deg C ?
thats around 82decC for 180degF... 200degF is around 93degC
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is there any list of percentage of gears for team orion vortex motor
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thats around 82decC for 180degF... 200degF is around 93degC
too hot !
gear wrong !
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Does any one know why the Orion Vortex 17.5 is not on the ROAR motor list ?

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I see the Orion 10.5 Stock motor is on the approved list for Modified, and the Orion 13.5 Stock motor is on the approved list for SuperStock, so why isn't the 17.5 on the ROAR approved brushless motor list?

http://www.roarracing.com/approvals/brushlessmotors.php
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Hi guys, with regards to changing armature, is there a way to make sure that the can is sealed back perfectly after you change armature and that there will be no binding? I have heard from friends that they have problem reassembling the motor properly and that after reasssembly, the motor just feels weird.
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just be cautious, the endbells are alloy (correct me if wrong). if your getting a bearing out, after each tap check the endbell hasnt bent or flexed. Ive taken my vortex apart numerous times, not once has it 'just feels wierd' afterwards. If your worried, you could always apply some blue loctite to the endbell screws, & make sure the armature is shimmed correctly, the first time you take it apart, note where what shim goes where!
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