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Old 02-02-2008, 04:12 PM   #811
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I agree very dumb remark.

If you can wheel you can wheel rubber or foam both require superior skill to be at the top, both in setup and in driving.
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Old 02-02-2008, 05:10 PM   #812
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I agree very dumb remark.

If you can wheel you can wheel rubber or foam both require superior skill to be at the top, both in setup and in driving.
Rubber mod on any surface is harder to control than foam on carpet. Rubber mod drivers have to have a sense for how much throttle to use so they don't light up thier tires or turn the front wheels past thier optimum slip angle. Neither of those are much of an issue on foam tires.

It is much harder for a foam tire racer to adapt to rubber racing than vice versa.

This is what pure foam drivers have a really hard time at Euro races, the Reedy race and Worlds.

I went to lunch with Josh Cyrul at the 2005 IFMAR Worlds and I asked him if all the foam racing he does hurts him at rubber races. He said it probably did but he has no regular place to run rubber so he has no choice but to run foams.
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Old 02-02-2008, 05:37 PM   #813
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Hasn't Paul L. been the "King of the Hill" in vegas for the past couple years? Hasn't Mike Blackstock been spotted in the a-mains of big rubber tire events lately? I would consider those 2 guys to be FOAM racers...

This is just another silly attempt to reignite the foam versus rubber debate.
You might as well say 1/8th scale offroad drivers are even better because its "harder to control" one of those than an onroad car. Dumb remark indeed.
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Old 02-02-2008, 07:03 PM   #814
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New subject, how about some interesting facts.

In Mod sedan 5 guys (5th thru 9th) went 31:5.03 something, 31:5.04 was 10th. And 31:5.05 was 14th.

That is crazy, I guess I have to say these guys are pretty good.
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Old 02-02-2008, 09:45 PM   #815
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posted more pictures and 2 "B" main videos over at www.rc50.com
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Old 02-03-2008, 12:39 AM   #816
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Hasn't Paul L. been the "King of the Hill" in vegas for the past couple years?
Have you asked Paul what is harder to drive? I have... next time you talk to him ask him yourself Maybe its not such a dumb statement
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Nice vids Nash. What happened to Toso?
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Rubber mod on any surface is harder to control than foam on carpet. Rubber mod drivers have to have a sense for how much throttle to use so they don't light up thier tires or turn the front wheels past thier optimum slip angle. Neither of those are much of an issue on foam tires.

It is much harder for a foam tire racer to adapt to rubber racing than vice versa.

This is what pure foam drivers have a really hard time at Euro races, the Reedy race and Worlds.

I went to lunch with Josh Cyrul at the 2005 IFMAR Worlds and I asked him if all the foam racing he does hurts him at rubber races. He said it probably did but he has no regular place to run rubber so he has no choice but to run foams.

True true
Sooooooooo true

Although not everyone likes the truth...
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Cuff with the win in A main GTP way to go bud.
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Schreffler with the win in A main 27t TC good run, and he did it again in A main 19t TC very good run.

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I won't disagree on which is harder to race (I personaly only run rubber tires). Granted I think when your on the level that those mod guys are it doesn't matter to much. If it did the american guys wouldn't be in the A-main at the worlds and such. Let alone finishing in the top 5
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Congrats to jason for your wins 19t foam sedan and stock foam sedan,and second stock 12 scale.Jeff cuffs congrats on win in stock 12 scale.TEAM EXPRESS SHOOK THE BIRDS. Losi lives!!!...cant wait for outdoor at jackson.
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Congrats to jason for your wins 19t foam sedan and stock foam sedan,and second stock 12 scale.Jeff cuffs congrats on win in stock 12 scale.TEAM EXPRESS SHOOK THE BIRDS. Losi lives!!!...cant wait for outdoor at jackson.
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Congrats to all of team express for all the work and fun time!!!!
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Does somebody know how many cells the top 3 drivers run in Touring modified. 5 or 6 cells?
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