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Old 06-11-2007, 11:24 AM   #1
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The last several months I have been testing this new Hacker Brushless sensor based motor. I ran this motor at the Reedy race with no problems the whole weekend. This motor can be run with 6 cells or 5 cells both will have excellent power. I have been running the 3.5T on 6 cells with 60 seconds of runtime left in the battery. This motor will work on all of the sensored or sensorless ESC's on the market.


Here are some pictures of the motor and the motor in my car.

This motor should be available within the next few months.
Hacker will be making a 3.5, 4.5 etc. There will also be a stock and 19T version available
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this is indeed good news!

when it's going to be available??

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The last several months I have been testing this new Hacker Brushless sensor based motor. I ran this motor at the Reedy race with no problems the whole weekend. This motor can be run with 6 cells or 5 cells both will have excellent power. I have been running the 3.5T on 6 cells with 60 seconds of runtime left in the battery. This motor will work on all of the sensored or sensorless ESC's on the market.


Here are some pictures of the motor and the motor in my car.

This motor should be available within the next few months.
Hacker will be making a 3.5, 4.5 etc. There will also be a stock and 19T version available
where we can get this motor?
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Old 06-12-2007, 10:21 AM   #4
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It should be available in 4-8 weeks.

Retail price will be around $79.99
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What? It's not a late April Fools joke?
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Is it too late to request a replaceable wiring harness?
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that should be the standard IMHO. and various lengths available.
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I agree as well.

Does Hacker develop their own motors, or are they working with someone like Feiago? It looks like maybe they developed this one on their own?
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It actually looks a whole lot like a Novak motor to be honest. Maybe they're just using some of Novak's parts for development? Unless Big Orange is doing the OEM thing now.

Edit: Never mind, I have no idea. Someone clue us in? I hope they're making these on their own, though!
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Yeah, no kidding! Throw us a bone people!
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That might not actualy pass homologation in some countries, as they do require a plug for the Hal sensor wire.....
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The only two things I don't love about Novak's motors are the purple ring and the fixed sensor harness. Somehow, Hacker managed to include them both! Ugh!

I do find it interesting that a company that seems to deal primarily with sensorless motors is working on one that makes use of Hall sensors. They even have a 1/10 sensorless motor available already. The plot thickens...

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I do find it interesting that a company that seems to deal primarily with sensorless motors is working on one that makes use of Hall sensors. They even have a 1/10 sensorless motor available already. The plot thickens...

Pretty simple really. There is a market to sell sensored motors to people who like to use sensored stuff. Their own sensorless motors are great motors but they are unfortunately not legal by ROAR rules. If they can build or relabel a ROAR motor, why not? They were building brushless motors long before any of the car companies considered using them.
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Don’t you want your motor sensored for racing applications? The way I understand is that if your motor is not sensored and you spin your car out or crash and bounce off a wall so its moving backwards and then you get on the throttle it will continue to go in "reverse" because there is no sensor to tell it which way to go. I've seen this from time to time with Micro cars when they crash if the driver gets on the gas too quickly it will continue to run backwards. Do all non sensored motors do this? If they do then I can see why some racing bodies want sensored motors and why Hacker is now selling motors with sensor cables
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Donít you want your motor sensored for racing applications? The way I understand is that if your motor is not sensored and you spin your car out or crash and bounce off a wall so its moving backwards and then you get on the throttle it will continue to go in "reverse" because there is no sensor to tell it which way to go. I've seen this from time to time with Micro cars when they crash if the driver gets on the gas too quickly it will continue to run backwards. Do all non sensored motors do this? If they do then I can see why some racing bodies want sensored motors and why Hacker is now selling motors with sensor cables
You'd think. Pictures have surfaced of more than one pro driver using GM ESC's w/o the sensor harness, and that ESC gives them the choice.

Marc Fischer won 1/12 mod at the snowbirds this year using a GM ESC/motor without the sensors. Maybe it depends on the application? I dunno. Tekin is poised to release an entire line of ESC's and motors without sensors, and others like Castle already have similar offerings.

I guess the answer isn't yes or no. It seems the answer is that both have their merits, and to use the one that works best for a given situation.
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